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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Dangerous Plan to Close Gitmo</title>
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		<title>By: shield</title>
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		<dc:creator>shield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a good article...Barry ain&#039;t going to close Gitmo...

A Time of a Happy Thanksgiving

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/848kfxnv.asp?pg=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a good article&#8230;Barry ain&#8217;t going to close Gitmo&#8230;</p>
<p>A Time of a Happy Thanksgiving</p>
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		<title>By: retire05</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A conversation I have had many times, including with Rick Moran at RWNH:

Them:  I don&#039;t believe in torture.

Me: Including waterboarding which does no physical damage?

Them:  Yes.

Me: Let me ask you a question.

Them: OK

Me: If your name was Mark Lundsford, and you were in room with John Cuey who knew where your daughter was being held alive, would you waterboard Cuey?

Them:  No, I don&#039;t believe in torture.

Me:  Then you would let your daugher die?

Them:  You can&#039;t use that as an example.

Me:  Why not?

Them:  You just can&#039;t.  Cuey&#039;s different.

Me:  Really, how?

Them:  He just is.  We have laws against torture.

Me:  We also have laws against kidnapping innocent children and then killing them.

Them:  But it&#039;s not the same.

Me:  OK, so you would let your child die before you waterboarded John Cuey?

Them:  This is stupid.  I don&#039;t want to talk about this anymore.

How many children&#039;s lives have been saved due to the information we have garnered from GITMO?  How long did it take Kalid Sheikh Mohammed to break and give vital information that prevented other terrorist attacks?  Ask an anti-GITMO liberal and they can&#039;t give you an answer.  

Their answer is always &quot;Close GITMO&quot;.  Then what?  We bring those 14 terrorists here, some liberal judge who legislates from the bench sets them free, their own nations refuse to take them back and we see them released into our general population.   Maybe would could start an &quot;Adopt A Friendly Terrorist&quot; program.  I am sure there are many liberals who would have no problem giving them a place to live.  You see, liberals only care about someone&#039;s civil liberties as long as it doesn&#039;t interfer with theirs or they have to be responsible for the decisions they make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A conversation I have had many times, including with Rick Moran at RWNH:</p>
<p>Them:  I don&#8217;t believe in torture.</p>
<p>Me: Including waterboarding which does no physical damage?</p>
<p>Them:  Yes.</p>
<p>Me: Let me ask you a question.</p>
<p>Them: OK</p>
<p>Me: If your name was Mark Lundsford, and you were in room with John Cuey who knew where your daughter was being held alive, would you waterboard Cuey?</p>
<p>Them:  No, I don&#8217;t believe in torture.</p>
<p>Me:  Then you would let your daugher die?</p>
<p>Them:  You can&#8217;t use that as an example.</p>
<p>Me:  Why not?</p>
<p>Them:  You just can&#8217;t.  Cuey&#8217;s different.</p>
<p>Me:  Really, how?</p>
<p>Them:  He just is.  We have laws against torture.</p>
<p>Me:  We also have laws against kidnapping innocent children and then killing them.</p>
<p>Them:  But it&#8217;s not the same.</p>
<p>Me:  OK, so you would let your child die before you waterboarded John Cuey?</p>
<p>Them:  This is stupid.  I don&#8217;t want to talk about this anymore.</p>
<p>How many children&#8217;s lives have been saved due to the information we have garnered from GITMO?  How long did it take Kalid Sheikh Mohammed to break and give vital information that prevented other terrorist attacks?  Ask an anti-GITMO liberal and they can&#8217;t give you an answer.  </p>
<p>Their answer is always &#8220;Close GITMO&#8221;.  Then what?  We bring those 14 terrorists here, some liberal judge who legislates from the bench sets them free, their own nations refuse to take them back and we see them released into our general population.   Maybe would could start an &#8220;Adopt A Friendly Terrorist&#8221; program.  I am sure there are many liberals who would have no problem giving them a place to live.  You see, liberals only care about someone&#8217;s civil liberties as long as it doesn&#8217;t interfer with theirs or they have to be responsible for the decisions they make.</p>
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