Johah Goldberg dug up that poll that Jim Webb mentioned in his ass clown performance last night.
“Last night ‚Äì despite the fact that Bush is changing the way the war is being fought ‚Äî Jim Webb claimed that ‚Äúthe majority of our military‚Äù does not support ‚Äúthe way this war is being fought‚Äù. This is the poll that is being cited as evidence of his claim:
“Only 35 percent of the military members polled this year said they approve of the way President Bush is handling the war, while 42 percent said they disapproved. […]Just as telling, in this year’s poll only 41 percent of the military said the U.S. should have gone to war in Iraq in the first place, down from 65 percent in 2003.”
http://www.militarycity.com/polls/2006_main.php
However, if you read further, you’ll find that only “13 percent said we should have no troops” in Iraq.
More importantly, though, is this:
the poll is only “of active-duty military subscribers to the Military Times newspapers” and
the “results should not be read as representative of the military as a whole”.Finally, it’s worth contrasting Webb’s current rhetoric against Iraq with his previous claims of popular support for the war in Vietnam:
The majority of the American people never truly bought the antiwar movement’s logic. While it is correct to say many wearied of an ineffective national strategy as the war dragged on, they never stopped supporting the actual goals for which the United States and South Vietnam fought. As late as September 1972, a Harris survey indicated overwhelming support for continued bombing of North Vietnam – 55 percent to 32 percent – and for mining North Vietnamese harbors – 64 percent to 22 percent. By a margin of 74 percent to 11 percent, those polled also agreed that “it is important that South Vietnam not fall into the control of the communists.”
Typical “Hit and Run” politics from Demcorats.
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shm10
January 24th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
1Mac:
Having been raised military and familiar with the “Army Times” I know for a fact that other members of a family can disagree with the actual active duty member. Many of these subscribers may not have even seen their copy when this poll was distributed (those who are serving overseas in combat for instance).
If this was delivered to their home another family member could have answered the poll and if you are in the situation of having a loved one in harms way sometimes it could be understandable how you might answer in a fashion that the soldier would not.
My Dad served in Korea and Viet Nam twice and I can tell you there were times that while Mom was a good military wife she was disillusioned with the whole political process, however, she would have never thought to answer for my Dad.
Just a few thoughts from personal experience..I have no idea if they could play in to the numbers Webb cited..of course my lack of respect for the “retired military” on the left drops each time they play politics with the lives of our active duty military and citizens. Shame on them!
shield
January 24th, 2007 at 5:31 pm
2If active military & family are unhappy with the deployments…they’ll solve that fast. The active military member will NOT reup. If one will look at those numbers they are historically high. Those numbers tell the real deal…almost all are re-enlisting.
Macranger
January 24th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
3Hi Shm10,
I worked AT back in the 80s, have stories to tell about the “editorial bias” during that time and it hasn’t lessened.
shm10
January 24th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
4Mac:
Exactly! And that bias swayed a lot of family members thinking. Active duty however, was always a different thing. Wish you would enlighten your readers on exactly how bad that publication can be especially in times of war or conflict. No different than the MSM it can inflict “opinion” and untrue facts on the families of the military. Not to say it is all bad, but let’s say there are times it “stretches the truth to meet its agenda”..just like so many “retired military” do today.
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