19 Apr
Posted by MacRanger as CIA
The aptly named, “Empty Wheel“:
“I’ve put this detail in a series of posts, but it really deserves a full post. According to the May 30, 2005 Bradbury memo, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002.
On page 37 of the OLC memo, in a passage discussing the differences between SERE techniques and the torture used with detainees, the memo explains:
The CIA used the waterboard “at least 83 times during August 2002″ in the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.”
It’s doubtful this is accurate, but since Khalid and Abu are responsible for the deaths of over 3000, I would think one time for each person who was incinerated on that day, at least once for every person who was forced to jump out of a window of the WTC only to splat on the sidewalk like a proverbial watermelon. Discomfort vs. unspeakable death, you do the math.
Again if waterboarding is torture then I’m a victim, went through it twice. In fact we have hundreds of victims today as it’s still being used during SEER and EV training in the Army, Marines, Navy.
If you asked anyone who really counted, such as the family member of a victim of 9/11, if Khalid or his hell-spawned buddy Abu were captured beforehand if they would have objected to waterboarding the creeps if it meant they could have their love one’s spared, what do you think they would say?
It’s obvious. But then we have regained a dangerous and wimpy mentality which in the end will only open the door to another 9/11. When it does I’m looking up one of these terrorist sympathizing clowns and kicking their fanny.
Technorati Tags: CIA, Waterboarding
2 Responses
The Moderate Voice
April 19th, 2009 at 11:52 am
1Bush Administration Torture Details: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Waterboarded 183 Times…
Even though some Bush administration officials and lawyers are trying to finesse it, the bottom line is that waterboarding is now widely perceived to not just be torture now but to have been torture when it occurred. The issue now has been whether it….
akauses
April 19th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
2The mention techniqes were not reserved for the Army,Navy,Marines, there are hundreds of thousands Air Force members that spent a week or more going through every one of those non torture techniques and many more. But I guess when you are a appeaser as our President you have to please the Euro bunch to be the in crowd. Little does he know after his trip and dictates they are laughing at him.
Our Tea Parties have them worried, all the cabinet making comments, Clintons PR animals Begala and Carville appear out of no where and the PUPPETMASTER DAVID AXLEROD all over TV today. Gibbzie looking like a third world press agent, making comments to the press without a tie on. White House on its way down, “how does your garden grow Michelle ?” Still hate America.
Our hero deterred Seal Team 6 from doing their job. Having to wait over 36 hours to get on-scene then waiting for pantywaist to give “his permission”. Thank God we have a Naval Commander that said the hell with his career and gave the “go” order by assuming OSC responsibilities. God Speed….
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