17 Nov
Posted by MacRanger as News
Thus goes the Conservatism is Dead thread from the media. This time the “we’ve got to change” comes from Eric Cantor:
“Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, poised to ascend to House Republicans’ No. 2 leader this week, said the Republican Party in Washington is no longer “relevant” to voters and must stop simply espousing principles. Instead, it must craft real solutions to health care and the economy.
“Where we have really fallen down is, we have lacked the ability to be relevant to people’s lives. Let’s set aside the last eight years, and our falling down in living up to expectations of what we said we were going to do,” Mr. Cantor told The Washington Times in his district office outside of Richmond. “It’s the relevancy question.”
As chief deputy whip, Mr. Cantor, 45, was the logical choice to move up when Republicans’ current whip, Rep. Roy Blunt, stepped aside – something Mr. Blunt announced days after Republicans lost at least 20 seats in the House.
A week before Wednesday’s leadership elections, Mr. Cantor offered a bleak assessment of his party and where it’s fallen: technology, preparedness for political realities, such as the next round of redistricting, and pursuing its ideals.
Most of all, he said, Republicans have been content to offer principles, rather than concrete solutions. Voters, he said, have punished them for it.
“It’s the roads, it’s going to the gas station, that’s still there when the price will bump back up. It’s education, it’s health care. These are the issues, frankly, that we have not been on offense with,” he said.”
Conservatism has always had the answer to problems. Again, more than 70 percent of Americans consider themselves conservative in their overall views. Whether healthcare or the economy in general. Even honest liberals know that less taxes on the people spurs the economy. The solution to healthcare isn’t government healthcare, but more choices through the free market. The reason 8 million more people voted for Obama than McCain is that they bought into th lie that Obama is a centrist politician. Nothing is further from the truth.
A very liberal friend of mine told me that my ideas – conservative ideals – were outdated, that we needed government run health care. I responded, “Ok, how much you willing to pay for it?” To which he replied, “Well nothing, it will be provided by the government!”
I then showed him how much he would stand to pay in taxes for such a system to be put in place and of course he didn’t believe me. But the point is that if you want the government to take care of your “needs” then the question is “how much are you willing to pay for it?”
Americans didn’t answer that question by voting for Barack Obama, but they’re about to find out.
Something tells me that they won’t be happy….just a hunch.
4 Responses
retire05
November 17th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
1Mac, and then we have morons like this posing as “core” conservative but who are telling his readers that the problem is that we are too “conservative” and too “religious”.
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/7177
Of course, I can’t respond to SS’s moronic view points as I bucked him on the Shamnesty Bill and he has banned me from his site. Guess he didn’t like the fact that I had bothered to read the damn bill and could argue against his “let them go to the end of the line while they stay here” argument.
I have long said that the tendancy to become Democrat Lite would not work. And now, the left is espousing bunny fuzzy feelings saying we should now all try to get along after they spent the last 8 years bashing Bush as a damn hobby.
Core conservative values are pretty simple:
Lower taxes
Less government
Personal responsibility
Let the free markets work and don’t place government in the middle of the road to stop them from succeeding
Seal our borders against invaders
Remove the illegals who have violated federal law by entering unasked
Protect the citizens by any means necessary
Anything else falls under one of those.
It is going to be a hard road to return to the conservatism that Reagan made work. Too many like Stratus who thinks that Reaganism is dead and we need to move on. Stop being what made us successful. Be more like the left and we will all get along.
My God, when you have people who claim to be conservatives that constantly bash true conservatism, how the hell hard is the road to return going to be?
DocJim
November 17th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
2I just checked your URL for AJ. Hmm, that is why I quite reading his blog at the Shamnesty voting time. AJ is a RINO and I have no use for RINOs. I became an independent when GWB pushed through the weird Medicare drug system.
If we have Eric Cantor and AJ as the shining lights of the GOP, there won’t be a GOP more than another 8-10 years. I’m not sure where the rest of us will be, but it won’t be in the GOP.
I agree with one of the posters at AJ’s site: Huckabee gave us John McCain because he sucked out the religious conservatives from the more conservative candidates and McCain became the default candidate. What a shame. I insisted I wouldn’t vote for him in February. But then I hadn’t counted on Obama, so McCain got my vote a few days back.
retire05
November 17th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
3DocJim, when the Shamnest Bill came out, AJ claimed it did not give amnesty. I disputed that showing him the exact words of the bill. Then he started calling those of us who think the illegal situation is out of hand and needs to be clamped down on as immigration “hypochondriacs” and slamming those that disagreed with him as “irrational” and the cause of the decline of conservatism.
Now I live in Texas and we have approx. 2 million illegals in my state. Recently Governor Rick Perry went off on the federal government because the gangs such as MS-13 have moved into our state are are creating havoc everywhere and the feds have done little to help states fight this crime wave and terror, and today Congressman Ted Poe was on Fox complaining that Texas will arrest, prosecute and lock up these thugs only to have ICE refuse to take them when they are released from jail.
But back to AJ. He made one mistake. Apparently he lives in Hendron, Va. And he complained that the illegals that lived there violated the “housing” codes of the city and would live ten to an apartment and he thought the city should enforce the housing codes and not let the illegals do that.
I tore him up. As you can imagine. The next thing I knew AJ was going off on me, telling me I was the problem with the GOP, not the solution, and because of people like me we would lose in ’08. When I asked why he thought Texas should have to carry the load for his bleating heart for illegals and why he was not upset with illegals violating our federal laws but was very, very upset that they violated his city’s housing laws, he got really angry and told me I was banned from his website. And so I was.
Now, I may not always agree with Mac, but he allows me the freedom to voice my opinon, knowing I will always be polite in my disent. AJ simply wants those who agree with him. I have found that those who most claim the mantle of tolerance are often the least tolerant toward others.
I am not a McCain fan, said I would not vote for him, and didn’t in the primaries, but he was the lesser of two evils as far as I was concerned. I certainly hope he learned that pandering to the illegals gained him not one damn vote.
DocJim
November 18th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
4I can have only a little sense of your problems in Texas, since I left there about 1981. I know live much closer to Herndon, Virginia (AJ’s current haunt) and I believe there are more “meso-Americans” in that same northern Virginia suburb of Wash DC and the Maryland suburbs (where I live) than there were in central Texas in 1981. A lot has happened demographically since 1981. In the suburbs of Wash DC, we see loads of Asians, Africans and “mesos” who have increased dramatically in numbers over the past 25 years. This is the permanent legacy of Edward Kennedy. My Maryland neighborhood was rabidly for Obama. I knew my vote was “wasted” as far as the Electoral College was concerned. But I hoped that I could reduce the overall popular vote for The One.
And I welcome Macs addition of some tech news blogging to the politics.
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