28 Aug
Posted by MacRanger as Larry Craig
While the purists on the Right such as Hugh Hewitt call for Craig’s resignation (I wonder if that would be the case if he hadn’t been so close to Romney?), the left is also in a quandary with this story.
First, again, this was a bad bust. Hell people read the report. A commenter on my last post notes, “the arresting officer says that Craig entered the stall to the left of him. He then goes on to say that Craig passed his left hand, exposing his ring finger, under the wall connecting the stalls. If I am reading this right, Craig must have been turned on his head to use his left hand to motion to the stall to the right of him or would have turned to face the back of the wall to use his left hand.”.
That’s quite a maneuver for a 62 year old man, even a horny one. Hell I’m 50 and would have trouble with it - no really!
Nevertheless, Craig says he isn’t gay and still denies that he was attempting to solicit (He pleading guilty to what amounted to a public nuisance complaint). Hey, I’m not condoning sex in public bathrooms, but I’ve cuffed and stuffed a few who actually committed the crime and this was simply a bad arrest.
Anyway that isn’t the point of the post. If you’ve read some of the lefty blogs - not the stupid-assed posting about another “hypocritical family values gay republican being caught”.
Morons. Hell, they’ve been talking about the gay/lesbian lifestyle IS a family value for years, and as I said before “cruising restrooms” is a favorite single past time for many gay men.
But some of the mainstream liberal blogs like Salon have had arguments among editors on how to present the story. For instance, editor Jacob Weisberg: “Shouldn’t we stick up for the poor guy? I can’t believe it’s a crime to tap your foot on the bathroom to signal that you want to hook up, as opposed to actually having sex in the bathroom.”
Even muckracker Josh Marshall asks, “Following up on David’s post below on what Craig ‘did’, I have to imagine this was one of those catch-22s that Craig really had no way out of. I’m going to assume for the sake of the discussion that the gestures Craig is described as making are ones easily recognizable as soliciting sex. The rubbed shoe (see police report) seems unambiguous to me. With that assumption, it’s still clear that the whole thing didn’t get far enough for Craig to ‘do’ anything lewd. But I’m not sure that matters since obviously you can get hauled off to jail for agreeing to purchase sex from a prostitute even before things get freaky.”
Via Newsbusters, Chris Matthews called Craig a “deviant”, and editor Mark Finkelstein of Newsbusters asks:
“I challenge Matthews to flatly ask the Democratic presidential contenders and other Dem leaders he encounters in coming weeks whether they share his view that all men who engage in such conduct are “sexual deviants.” Should make for some illuminating TV as Dems walk a tightrope between public mores and the sensibilities of one of the Dem party’s important constituent groups.”
And that constituency?
Matt Foreman, of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force:
“‚ÄúWhat‚Äôs up with elected officials like Senator Craig? They stand for so-called ‚Äòfamily values‚Äô and fight basic protections for gay people while furtively seeking other men for sex. Infuriating pathetic hypocrites. What more can you say?
“There is sad irony that a United States senator from Idaho has been caught up in the same kind of thing that destroyed the lives of dozens of men in Boise in the 1950s, so tragically chronicled in ‘Boys of Boise.’
“And by the way, why are Minneapolis tax dollars being used to have plainclothes police officers lurking idly in airport restroom stalls?”
Read between the lines, they go after Craig, but defend his right to cruise the stalls. According to what they actually defend (free and easy on the Gay lifestyle), they have no choice.
So stand by on this one, it’s going to get interesting.
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retire05
August 28th, 2007 at 8:20 pm
1Like I said before, it was a bad bust and Craig should have fought it. But he didn’t and now he will pay the price.
I would love to ask Hillary if she condems this action after she stood in front of a gay group on TV and expressed her undying love for the gay community. You are right. Which is it, Dhimmicrats? Are they sexual diviants or poor men reduced to seeking sex in a john (pardon the pun) because the mean, evil Christian right wing won’t give them the right to marry?
Of course the answer will be “The right claims to have family values and then this happens.” Well, explain something to me; does that mean that the left side of the aisle does not have family values and therefore cannot be held to standards like the rest of us?
Yeah, this could get good. Meanwhile, a Congressman introduces a bill to bring poor oppressed Elvira Arellano back to the U.S. after she committed identity theft that would have landed any other citizen in jail, Hillary is linked to a campaign donation scandel in the WSJ and the left is trying to figure out a way to call General Petraeus a liar no matter what he says.
Move right along. Nothing new today.
kathie
August 28th, 2007 at 8:42 pm
2Was the cop already in the toilet, or was Craig set up?
retire05
August 28th, 2007 at 8:58 pm
3kathie, the cop was already in the stall. This was an “airport” cop, not a city cop. So more like a rent-a-cop as you will find in most airports.
Austin uses city cops. Don’t know about other cities.
But it was a bad bust and the cop made at least one inconsistant statment as Mac listed above. Also, I can’t tell from the report but it seems to me that Craig was not read his Miranda rights until after he was taken to HQ. His rights should have been read to him immediately upon arrest.
kathie
August 28th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
4Thanks Retire05.
Cornhusker
August 29th, 2007 at 12:02 am
5Yeah, this could get good. Meanwhile, a Congressman introduces a bill to bring poor oppressed Elvira Arellano back to the U.S. after she committed identity theft that would have landed any other citizen in jail, Hillary is linked to a campaign donation scandel in the WSJ and the left is trying to figure out a way to call General Petraeus a liar no matter what he says.
Move right along. Nothing new today.
Left by retire05 on August 28th, 2007
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Mac, Retire05, and ALL
What do you guys make of this…found at Free Republic:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1888108/posts
It seems like Mr Norman Hsu (Hillary’s chief fundraiser) is a WANTED MAN. This is supposed to be published in the LA Times tomorrow. I will believe it when I see it in print. Maybe.
Can this thing get any stranger?
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