Ted Kennedy wasn’t into his second martini of sorrow of over the demise of the (A) Bill before pundits – especially on the left began yacking about how bad it’s going to be for the GOP in 2008.
First of all let’s take my state, the BIG state of Florida. In case you forgot, “We pick ‘em” when it comes to who get’s the Presidency.
(yeah even when the Democrats screw up the voting – hrrmpt, another story).
As noted, there are those who are saying that because the bill flopped hispanics will now be pissed at the GOP and vote democrat, and so the GOP is doomed in 2008.
Even the WSJ who had a business stake in the debate decried, “The longer-term danger is that the GOP is sending a message to Latinos that it doesn’t want them in the party. And if that message sticks, Republicans could put themselves back in minority party status for a generation or more.”
Maybe in their neck of the woods, but not how it’s going to be here.
The reasons are many, but the hispanic community is actually celebrating the death of the bill here in South Florida. In fact on every radio and television show broadcast – and I’ve been listening to a great many of them – there is great happiness and relief that the bill died.
Again, six of of the largest hispanic rights organizations were against the passage of this bill – that should be telling enough. In just about every local poll conducted there was overwhelming non-support for it, especially among the hispanics and those of Caribbean descent. A local leader that I spoke with called the bill an insult.
“Many of us came here legally, filled out the paperwork, waited our time, took the test and look at the proudest day of our life as the day we raised our right hand and became a citizen of the US. This bill want’s to give away free what we who did the right thing worked so hard to do. It’s an insult.”
Even more telling about this bill is how local news is framing the defeat. In six successive broadcast here on local Miami TV since Thursday the bill’s death was treated as yet another reason why the public views congress with such low approval ratings.
Will there ulimately be a blow back in anyway for the GOP?
First, it’s way too early. In the coming months perhaps people will actually read the disaster this bill was and after wiping their foreheads in relief will be thankful the dang thing died.
Not that there won’t be some consequences for some politicians who tried to push it through. In fact the hispanic reaction is so intense that local hispanic organizations are behind efforts to recall Senator Mel Martinez over his support of the bill.
Again, looking at every poll there was – across the board, among the races, no support for this bill.
Except here in Florida hispanics have traditionally voted democrat nationwide, yet when conservatives show up at the polls they win every time. We proved this in 2000, 2002, and in 2004.
Whether we succeed in 2008 and beyond will depend on how we show up then and on nothing else.
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rlqretired
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:02 am
1Mac-I agree totally with your comment “Whether we succeed in 2008 and beyond will depend on how we show up then and on nothing else”
I see the defeat of the amnesty bill as a great opportunity, as well as a disastrous threat, to the future of our Republican Party. Rasmussen has said that 80% of the people support securing the border first and President Bush already has enough existing law on the books that will take us far towards that goal, speaking specifically about the fence law of 2006 which deals largely with Mexican border fencing which the public sees being irritatingly penetrated every night on their TV’s.
President Bush alone has the responsibility to get this job done but he has never wanted a secure border with Mexico and I don’t believe he ever will. What President Bush fails to realize is that by failing to prioritize this fence NOW, combined with this administrations failure to enforce many other existing immigration laws, he is leaving himself wide open to impeachment charges if a terrorist or bomb goes off in the USA that is proven to have come into our country across the Mexican border. His good friend Ted Kennedy, and the other Democrats, along with our very own Senate Republican “clay pigeon” Amnesty Bill supporters, will be calling for Bush to be Impeached to cover their own guilty rear ends. We must change our president’s mind and do whatever is necessary to prevent this from happening because it will totally destroy our chances in the 2008 elections. A successful terrorist or bomb coming through Mexico before the elections will be a glorious event for the MSM and the Democrats. The constant headlines, investigations and hearings will kill us which they will present as being caused by we conservatives that killed the wonderful all solving amnesty bill.
Somehow, we must change our president’s mind and declare that implementing the fence law of 2006 has been moved to the top of his agenda. Perhaps a declaration, based upon national security, that he is going to complete this fence in a very short period of time and will issue executive orders, if necessary, to overcome any and all obstacles that stand in his way including transferring available funding and ignoring any and all court orders. Watching the Dems and MSM scream to have this security fence stopped or removed while campaigning to get the Dems re-elected at the same time would be fun to watch.
Our president would immediately regain the support of his base, get the support of 80% of the people, eliminate or lessen the impeachment threat he has brought upon himself and set the stage to wipe out the Democrats in the 2008 elections, providing they all support the president and promise to deal with the balance of the immigration issues, one issue at a time, when they win back congress in 2008. Something like Newt’s “Contract With America” back in 94. Security first, any talk of limited amnesty last.
President Bush alone has this power and responsibility. I see it as our responsibility to make him understand this potential disaster, or opportunity, that has been created by his clay pigeon amnesty bill blunder. Somehow, we must make this happen!! It is now, while the iron is hot, time to get this done. The president would eventually get much of what he sincerely wants for the illegal Mexicans, just later than he would like.
Harold C. Hutchison
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:36 am
2In 2006, the GOP lost a lot of support from moderates (from 45% in 2004 to 38%), Hispanics (44% to 30%), and registered Independents (48% to 39%) that they got in 2004.
Note: Moderates (as an ideology) were 47% of the 2006 voting population (up from 45% in 2004). Independents (not registered) were 26% (same as 2004).
The exit polling data seems to indicate losses in those areas.
2004 exit poll:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html
2006 exit poll:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/US/H/00/epolls.0.html
rlqretired
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:09 pm
3Harold C. Hutchison –
First, I note the polls you reference are CNN stuff and CNN is so biased it is simply not trustworthy.
Second, to be more accurate about this drop in support for the Republican Party, one must take into consideration that in 2004 there was generally a limited number far left kook Democrats in congress pushing the, Bush lied people died re-deploy the troops now propaganda” like John Murtha, along with some of the MSM. By the time 2006 elections rolled around Democrat support for the war in Iraq had almost totally collapsed, some Republicans were beginning to raise serious questions and the biased MSM had made opposition to this war their primary issue with constant daily condemnation of President Bush and the Republican party.
Third, by the time the 2008 elections roll around, I believe the final direction of the Iraq war will, win or loose, pretty much be established and no longer the issue it is today or as it was in 2006.
Forth, the point of my initial comment is that the Republicans still have an excellent chance to win back many moderates and Hispanics if they establish and follow something similar to my suggestions and lay out a plan for a contract with America pledge focused upon a reasonable list of immigration issue solutions, in the order of security importance first and a reasonable amnesty plan last.
Fifth, based upon what I have seen from Chertoff and President Bush since the defeat of the amnesty bill, they seem totally satisfied to leave this issue alone for the duration of the presidents term. I heard Chertoff on TV say that this defeat left very important security issues on the Senate floor, however, when pushed by the host he seemed not interested in reviving the immigration issue on a security only basis and that is a big mistake. Granted, such a bill would have little hope of passing but it would provide an excellent opportunity for the Republicans to appeal to the reasonable moderates and Hispanics and I believe many would return. Meanwhile, the future of our party remains in jeopardy if that terrorist or bomb inters the USA from Mexico and is successful.
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