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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2007/07/19/plame-out/#comment-2794</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I've heard of that scary scenario, Marilyn, but I've long suspected.

Well, yes, there are quite a few things Pres. Bush could do...Like, fight the war to win, secure the borders, stop blatant drug trafficking, prosecute Nat. Security leakers, etc. ad nauseum. If he can't get the obvious things done, how could you expect him to delve into the gothic tangle you described of internally funded bureaucracy-protected Fifth Column organizations?

Thanks to Clarice, I just saw postings over at Free Republic that seem to be watching Murtha pretty closely. What would it take to start up a watch on the orgs. you described and their funding sources? Anyone ever compile a list?

You just ruined my day, I might add. I thought all we had to worry about was outside thugs like Ernst Stavro Sorros Blofeld, and other loons. And grafters, like Murtha.

What you describe is a diabolically brilliant scheme for disabling our institutions using perpetual funding from tax dollars. The depth and audacity take my breath away. The Fifth Column is truly immense. Meanwhile most of the voters are asleep, and losing an opportunity to expose this kind of stuff and recall the perps. Don't expect Bush to do anything. The people have to do it. And they are anesthetized by the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I&#8217;ve heard of that scary scenario, Marilyn, but I&#8217;ve long suspected.</p>
<p>Well, yes, there are quite a few things Pres. Bush could do&#8230;Like, fight the war to win, secure the borders, stop blatant drug trafficking, prosecute Nat. Security leakers, etc. ad nauseum. If he can&#8217;t get the obvious things done, how could you expect him to delve into the gothic tangle you described of internally funded bureaucracy-protected Fifth Column organizations?</p>
<p>Thanks to Clarice, I just saw postings over at Free Republic that seem to be watching Murtha pretty closely. What would it take to start up a watch on the orgs. you described and their funding sources? Anyone ever compile a list?</p>
<p>You just ruined my day, I might add. I thought all we had to worry about was outside thugs like Ernst Stavro Sorros Blofeld, and other loons. And grafters, like Murtha.</p>
<p>What you describe is a diabolically brilliant scheme for disabling our institutions using perpetual funding from tax dollars. The depth and audacity take my breath away. The Fifth Column is truly immense. Meanwhile most of the voters are asleep, and losing an opportunity to expose this kind of stuff and recall the perps. Don&#8217;t expect Bush to do anything. The people have to do it. And they are anesthetized by the media.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
		<link>http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2007/07/19/plame-out/#comment-2801</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remind you once again. I served on the board of directors of a national "Environmental" Organization for 5 years. I can tell you from personal knowledge that most of the big national dissident organizations are headed by "radical extremists from the 60's Civil Rights and Peace movements." ( FBI) They could care less about the causes they claim to represent. Their stated goal is "To unite all dissident groups and empower them to overthrow the government." They still believe Communism will work when "Practiced in it's true form." and believe it failed in the USSR because they weren't doing it right. According to connections still inside the dissident movements, most of these national dissident organizations have guaranteed  permanent funding built into federal agency budgets. This was their gift from the Clinton's for throwing their support behind them.

When Ronald Reagan took office these organizations were awash in money and had branch offices in just about every state.When Bill Clinton took office, most of these organizations were near bankrupct and had closed all their offices except one, usually located in a rundown building in Wash. DC.  Thanks to the generosity of the Clintons, most of them are now funded generously by the federal government and have reopened state and local offices all over the country. In the 6 years George Bush has been in office and with the Republicans controling Congress, nothing was done to stop the millions of dollars flowing from the taxpayers to these seditious organizations. If Reagan could stop it, Bush could too.

So Nancy is giving one of the Dems big supporters a million taxpayer dollars. What else is new? It's a drop in the bucket. Our government is funding the dissidents that are determined to destroy it. How damned crazy, or dumb, can the American voters get?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remind you once again. I served on the board of directors of a national &#8220;Environmental&#8221; Organization for 5 years. I can tell you from personal knowledge that most of the big national dissident organizations are headed by &#8220;radical extremists from the 60&#8217;s Civil Rights and Peace movements.&#8221; ( FBI) They could care less about the causes they claim to represent. Their stated goal is &#8220;To unite all dissident groups and empower them to overthrow the government.&#8221; They still believe Communism will work when &#8220;Practiced in it&#8217;s true form.&#8221; and believe it failed in the USSR because they weren&#8217;t doing it right. According to connections still inside the dissident movements, most of these national dissident organizations have guaranteed  permanent funding built into federal agency budgets. This was their gift from the Clinton&#8217;s for throwing their support behind them.</p>
<p>When Ronald Reagan took office these organizations were awash in money and had branch offices in just about every state.When Bill Clinton took office, most of these organizations were near bankrupct and had closed all their offices except one, usually located in a rundown building in Wash. DC.  Thanks to the generosity of the Clintons, most of them are now funded generously by the federal government and have reopened state and local offices all over the country. In the 6 years George Bush has been in office and with the Republicans controling Congress, nothing was done to stop the millions of dollars flowing from the taxpayers to these seditious organizations. If Reagan could stop it, Bush could too.</p>
<p>So Nancy is giving one of the Dems big supporters a million taxpayer dollars. What else is new? It&#8217;s a drop in the bucket. Our government is funding the dissidents that are determined to destroy it. How damned crazy, or dumb, can the American voters get?</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2007/07/19/plame-out/#comment-2795</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Clarice--
Once again, things are worse than they seem. A new phantom nonprofit as an offshoot of an established and heavily taxpayer-funded phantom corp. One front org. wasn't enough for the greedy b******. Wonder how much of this sort of thing is going on? Front companies/nonprofits getting secret midnight earmarks. Now there's a research project. Have we finally found the real reason Democrats run for Congress? Look how they all rallyed around Murtha when the earmark was challenged. Funneling money into shady, unexamined front companies. Why, isn't that what Duke Cunningham was doing? And, isn't that what AlQaida does? Maybe Bin Laden learned the trick from Murtha.

What do you want to bet this kind of graft is the real reason Able Danger was taken down? Hmmmm? Trace terrorist money? They may find find more than that.

There's probably a way for an average citizen to track these funds. And here's another guess: Murtha probably serves in some money-making capacity on one or more of the front companies, board member, consultant, or employee. Better than Abscam. No FBI stings when you legislate the graft. Why, it's the law!

JFK's often quoted warning to the Red Chinese (still ok to use that term?) about those who ride the back of the tiger eventually find themselves inside aptly describes the Democratic leadership. They referred to the "culture of corruption" so much they're now inside the beast.

I still keep my hopes along with Mac's that the public will see all of this and make changes. But after the circus this week in the Senate and House--Stumbling all over themselves and the procedures to make sure they are out of Washington in two weeks--all with not a notice from the press or a wimper from the public, (and having the gall to start pulling the rug out from under the troops as well as loyal citizens trying to do their duty), while arrogantly funneling money to phantom front companies, I do begin to despair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Clarice&#8211;<br />
Once again, things are worse than they seem. A new phantom nonprofit as an offshoot of an established and heavily taxpayer-funded phantom corp. One front org. wasn&#8217;t enough for the greedy b******. Wonder how much of this sort of thing is going on? Front companies/nonprofits getting secret midnight earmarks. Now there&#8217;s a research project. Have we finally found the real reason Democrats run for Congress? Look how they all rallyed around Murtha when the earmark was challenged. Funneling money into shady, unexamined front companies. Why, isn&#8217;t that what Duke Cunningham was doing? And, isn&#8217;t that what AlQaida does? Maybe Bin Laden learned the trick from Murtha.</p>
<p>What do you want to bet this kind of graft is the real reason Able Danger was taken down? Hmmmm? Trace terrorist money? They may find find more than that.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s probably a way for an average citizen to track these funds. And here&#8217;s another guess: Murtha probably serves in some money-making capacity on one or more of the front companies, board member, consultant, or employee. Better than Abscam. No FBI stings when you legislate the graft. Why, it&#8217;s the law!</p>
<p>JFK&#8217;s often quoted warning to the Red Chinese (still ok to use that term?) about those who ride the back of the tiger eventually find themselves inside aptly describes the Democratic leadership. They referred to the &#8220;culture of corruption&#8221; so much they&#8217;re now inside the beast.</p>
<p>I still keep my hopes along with Mac&#8217;s that the public will see all of this and make changes. But after the circus this week in the Senate and House&#8211;Stumbling all over themselves and the procedures to make sure they are out of Washington in two weeks&#8211;all with not a notice from the press or a wimper from the public, (and having the gall to start pulling the rug out from under the troops as well as loyal citizens trying to do their duty), while arrogantly funneling money to phantom front companies, I do begin to despair.</p>
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		<title>By: clarice</title>
		<link>http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2007/07/19/plame-out/#comment-2800</link>
		<dc:creator>clarice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, Bobby-Looks like Murtha has been characteristically dishonest about his latest earmark:
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The Department of Energy is denying Rep. John Murtha‚Äôs (D-Pa.) claim that it supports his $1 million earmark request for a project in his district aimed at protecting the nation‚Äôs natural-gas pipelines.
Murtha attempted yesterday to quell criticism of a so-called mystery $1 million earmark to establish the Center for Instrumented Critical Infrastructure, a subsidiary of Concurrent Technology Corporation (CTC), a nonprofit technology innovation center in Johnstown, Pa., that has received millions of dollars in earmarks in recent years.
DoE spokeswoman Anne Kolton said yesterday the earmark is not a program that meets the department‚Äôs ‚Äúmission critical‚Äù threshold, noting it was ‚Äúinconsistent‚Äù with the department‚Äôs 2008 budget.
Anti-earmark crusader Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) challenged the earmark on the House floor Tuesday, asking if the ‚Äúmysterious‚Äù Center for Instrumented Critical Infrastructure even existed because he and his staff couldn‚Äôt find a website for it. Flake‚Äôs challenge failed, 98-326.
In response to Flake, Rep. Pete Visclosky (D-Ind.), who chairs the spending subcommittee responsible for the project, admitted he didn‚Äôt know whether it existed.
‚ÄúAt this time, I do not know,‚Äù Visclosky said. ‚ÄúBut if it does not exist, the monies could not go to it.‚Äù [/quote]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1868679/posts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, Bobby-Looks like Murtha has been characteristically dishonest about his latest earmark:<br />
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The Department of Energy is denying Rep. John Murtha‚Äôs (D-Pa.) claim that it supports his $1 million earmark request for a project in his district aimed at protecting the nation‚Äôs natural-gas pipelines.<br />
Murtha attempted yesterday to quell criticism of a so-called mystery $1 million earmark to establish the Center for Instrumented Critical Infrastructure, a subsidiary of Concurrent Technology Corporation (CTC), a nonprofit technology innovation center in Johnstown, Pa., that has received millions of dollars in earmarks in recent years.<br />
DoE spokeswoman Anne Kolton said yesterday the earmark is not a program that meets the department‚Äôs ‚Äúmission critical‚Äù threshold, noting it was ‚Äúinconsistent‚Äù with the department‚Äôs 2008 budget.<br />
Anti-earmark crusader Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) challenged the earmark on the House floor Tuesday, asking if the ‚Äúmysterious‚Äù Center for Instrumented Critical Infrastructure even existed because he and his staff couldn‚Äôt find a website for it. Flake‚Äôs challenge failed, 98-326.<br />
In response to Flake, Rep. Pete Visclosky (D-Ind.), who chairs the spending subcommittee responsible for the project, admitted he didn‚Äôt know whether it existed.<br />
‚ÄúAt this time, I do not know,‚Äù Visclosky said. ‚ÄúBut if it does not exist, the monies could not go to it.‚Äù [/quote]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1868679/posts" rel="nofollow">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1868679/posts</a></p>
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		<title>By: A Blog For All</title>
		<link>http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2007/07/19/plame-out/#comment-2799</link>
		<dc:creator>A Blog For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Plame Lawsuit Dismissed...&lt;/strong&gt;

Valerie Plame, whose name launched a federal investigation into who leaked her identity to the press and netted Scooter Libby in a tangled web of contradictions leading to his conviction of perjury and obstruction of justice charges (and commuted by .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Plame Lawsuit Dismissed&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Valerie Plame, whose name launched a federal investigation into who leaked her identity to the press and netted Scooter Libby in a tangled web of contradictions leading to his conviction of perjury and obstruction of justice charges (and commuted by &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2007/07/19/plame-out/#comment-2798</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mac--Again, thanks for sticking with this travesty--or rather three ring circus.

Finally, someone in our justice system is willing to speak truth. Here's my read of the judge's bottom line. Fault for this expensive fiasco lies with lying Joe Dip--lo--mat and CIA Val. If they hadn't misused their positions in an attempted coup against the administration, there would have been no reason for people in the administration to defend against their conniving and lies, and lies they were according to the Senate Committee on Intelligence. LIES!! No case, lady. Crawl back under your rock.

Here's the unfortunate part. It was a successful Fifth Column op. It did what it was supposed to do--distract the country and the White House during a war, causing the expenditure of energies and treasure chasing ephemera. Great job Joe and Val. You wasted money that could have been used to hunt down terrorists, or buy body armor, or upgrade vehicles. That constitutes in my book aiding and abetting the enemy.

Mac, speaking of Fifth Column, the C-in-C of the Fifth Column in the House of Representatives just got away with a secret earmark of $1 million. That's better than Dollar Bill Jefferson. Any chance the House ethics committee will investigate? What I heard is the cool million will be funneled to a Murtha contributor through a possible front organization. Pretty lucrative investment. A million dollar return on a donation, which was probably tax deductable. Wonder if Murtha gets a kickback?

Now, if Million Dollar Jack were Republican, this little trick would be headline news on tomorrow's NYT front page. Since it's Murtha (D), it won't even be noticed. How do the people of Johnstown sleep at night? I bet no one admits that Million Dollar, Smear the Marines, Mr Disgrace Murtha is their Congressman.

Any info you have on Million Dollar Murtha's latest scam would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac&#8211;Again, thanks for sticking with this travesty&#8211;or rather three ring circus.</p>
<p>Finally, someone in our justice system is willing to speak truth. Here&#8217;s my read of the judge&#8217;s bottom line. Fault for this expensive fiasco lies with lying Joe Dip&#8211;lo&#8211;mat and CIA Val. If they hadn&#8217;t misused their positions in an attempted coup against the administration, there would have been no reason for people in the administration to defend against their conniving and lies, and lies they were according to the Senate Committee on Intelligence. LIES!! No case, lady. Crawl back under your rock.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the unfortunate part. It was a successful Fifth Column op. It did what it was supposed to do&#8211;distract the country and the White House during a war, causing the expenditure of energies and treasure chasing ephemera. Great job Joe and Val. You wasted money that could have been used to hunt down terrorists, or buy body armor, or upgrade vehicles. That constitutes in my book aiding and abetting the enemy.</p>
<p>Mac, speaking of Fifth Column, the C-in-C of the Fifth Column in the House of Representatives just got away with a secret earmark of $1 million. That&#8217;s better than Dollar Bill Jefferson. Any chance the House ethics committee will investigate? What I heard is the cool million will be funneled to a Murtha contributor through a possible front organization. Pretty lucrative investment. A million dollar return on a donation, which was probably tax deductable. Wonder if Murtha gets a kickback?</p>
<p>Now, if Million Dollar Jack were Republican, this little trick would be headline news on tomorrow&#8217;s NYT front page. Since it&#8217;s Murtha (D), it won&#8217;t even be noticed. How do the people of Johnstown sleep at night? I bet no one admits that Million Dollar, Smear the Marines, Mr Disgrace Murtha is their Congressman.</p>
<p>Any info you have on Million Dollar Murtha&#8217;s latest scam would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: baldilocks</title>
		<link>http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2007/07/19/plame-out/#comment-2797</link>
		<dc:creator>baldilocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Of Interest...&lt;/strong&gt;

Valerie Plame‚Äôs civil lawsuit filed against Vice President Cheney, presidential adviser Karl Rove and others for allegedly leaking her CIA identity to the media has been dismissed‚Äîif only for jurisdictional reasons. Of course, not everyone is happy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Of Interest&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Valerie Plame‚Äôs civil lawsuit filed against Vice President Cheney, presidential adviser Karl Rove and others for allegedly leaking her CIA identity to the media has been dismissed‚Äîif only for jurisdictional reasons. Of course, not everyone is happy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wake up America</title>
		<link>http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2007/07/19/plame-out/#comment-2796</link>
		<dc:creator>Wake up America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Judge Dismisses Plame Lawsuit...&lt;/strong&gt;

Doubtful, but come on Michelle, admit it, it's kinda fun watching the dogs chase their tails, round and round and round in circles? You can tell me, I won't tell anyone... (grinning cheeeeeekily here)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Judge Dismisses Plame Lawsuit&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Doubtful, but come on Michelle, admit it, it&#8217;s kinda fun watching the dogs chase their tails, round and round and round in circles? You can tell me, I won&#8217;t tell anyone&#8230; (grinning cheeeeeekily here)&#8230;</p>
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