About time sanity on a non-issue returned:
“CINCINNATI — A divided federal appeals court rejected a lawsuit Friday challenging President Bush’s domestic spying program without ruling on the issue of whether warrantless wiretapping is legal.
In a 2-1 decision with Republican-appointed judges in the majority, a three-judge panel of the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the plaintiffs had no standing to sue because they couldn’t prove their communications had been monitored by the government.
The decision underscored the difficulty of challenging the anti-terrorism program in court because its secret nature prevents plaintiffs from obtaining surveillance information. The National Security Agency had refused to turn over information about the warrantless wiretapping that would have bolstered the court case.
“This is a Catch-22,” said Steven R. Shapiro, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union, which filed the lawsuit. “I think what in effect they’re saying is that we can’t tell you whether you have been wiretapped because that’s a secret. And unless you know you’ve been wiretapped, you can’t challenge that program.”
The appeals court vacated a 2006 order by a lower court in Detroit, which had concluded that the warrantless surveillance authorized after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks was unconstitutional.
President Bush authorized warrantless monitoring of international telephone calls and e-mails to or from the United States when one party is believed to be a terrorist or to have terrorist ties. The government has kept details confidential, saying the case involved state secrets whose disclosure would threaten national security.
While sidestepping the question of constitutionality, Judge Alice M. Batchelder and Judge Julia Smith Gibbons wrote that the plaintiffs lacked standing to sue without proof they were monitored by the government.
“The plaintiffs are ultimately prevented from establishing standing because of the state secrets privilege,” Gibbons wrote.”
In other words the plantiffs can’t show where anyone had ever monitored them or anyone else they could think up. This is what I and other supporters have said from the beginning. For all the leftist media hysteria about “Spying on Americans”, the fact is that not one instance of this has been shown to have taken place for which it was not warranted.
Again, if you are speaking with terrorists you HAVE NO RIGHT TO PRIVACY. Even better the ruling tossed that hack Tayor’s awful and politically motivated ruling calling this legal program illegal.
A good ruling.
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July 6th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
2HAPPY BIRTHDAY PRESIDENT BUSH!!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY NANCY REAGAN!!!!
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July 6th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
3HAPPY BIRTHDAY, PRESIDENT BUSH!
This Italian citizen wishes to thank you and your strong nation for your remarkable presidency and for leading the free world unfazed by the campaigns of hatred of the coward and the bigoted.
I thank you for being a committed Christian and a man of prayer. What an example for our times when only PC cowardice and relativism seem to drive politicians!
I thank you for protecting America and keeping her at the head of the free world. That gives more hope than you would think to all those who understand the pillars of western civilization and see America as the last bastion of it.
I thank you for your stunningly consistent pro-life leadership that is not only strenghtening the culture of life in your noble nation, but also influencing the debate abroad! Do not believe that Hollywood is all that the world gets of America. If bad things do have an impact on us foreigners, good examples work ten times as much!
I thank you for the strong economy of your country, the amazingly low unemplyoment rate, the breathtaking growth of GDP in spite of two costly and far away war-fronts, the ever growing opportunities America offers to anyone willing to strive for a better tomorrow. Your economy is all that stands between our failing nearly-socialist systems in haughty and lazy Europe and depression. Thank you!
I thank you for your compassionate conservatism and for having provided the conservative movement with a chance to redefine itself in order to win today’s cultural wars. I am not worried by the obtusity of some conservatives. America has given to me enough proofs that she is a quick learner and that temporary setbacks only precede resounding victories.
I thank you for liberating Iraq and Afghanistan and for being the commander in chief of such a fine military. For fighting merciless butchers trying to never cross the line of moral rules that forbid to choose an easy victory at the cost of avoidable innocent victims. This is outstanding and will be praised and celebrated for years to come once the the bias of propaganda will have faded and reality will appear in its entirety. America is an example of morality even in war, and deserves to lead the world precisely because Americans have no desire to lead the world- much less at any cost - but only to be free and just under God, doing what needs to be done no matter what the rats squeak about when the eagle needs to fly.
I thank you and your wonderful First Lady for being so gracious to everyone, even those who normally insult you in the most offensive ways and whose lives and deeds make them unworthy of shaking hands with you and of calling themselves “Americans”.
Through you, I wish to thank the American people for having expressed their will in the only polls that count: two elections. I wish to thank every American soldier, the fallen and the mutilated first and then all others risking their butt for my freedom too, every mourning American family, and everyone in the USA resisting defeatism. Rest assured that there are many, many foreigners like me who admire you, pray for you and are are grateful for everything America doeas for everybody’s freedom.
Mr.President, you are the Commander in Chief of a great nation you’ve helped grow in greatness, and that alone would make anyone’s birthday an overwhelmingly happy day. But being the man you are, I know you would downplay your own merits and thank God for America instead. But today, let me thank YOU Mr. President, and happy birhtday!
— Fabrizio
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