While some like my blogging pal AJ Strata are eulogizing the demise of the GOP after the immigration bill went down (for now) in flames, let’s not forget it wasn’t the uber right or left that killed it, it was America.
I been perusing polling data conducted over the last two weeks from several sources and it’s apparent that once the American people actually got a taste of what the Kennedy 1965 rehash contained they simply said “No”.
You have to pay attention when according to Rasmussen Reports:
“72% of Americans believe it‚Äôs Very Important to reduce illegal immigration and enforce the borders. Just 29% said it was Very Important to legalize the status of those illegally living in the country today.”
Like it or not that is a point of agreement in every poll I read. In every case, it’s “secure first, deal with the present illegal population” second. Because the bill contained more for the later than it did for the former it flopped.
But what of the GOP? Is it in a shambles?
Not at all. Fact is that I’m old enough to remember the last interparty fighting back in 1964 with Goldwater and 1976 with Ronald Reagan losing to Jerry Ford at the GOP convention.
In both cases there were so-called rifts in the party and thousands threatened to leave and join the independents and democrats. Yet like the threat of moonbats to leave the country after Bush won the election in 2004 it didn’t materialize.
In fact in both cases the GOP was stronger afterwards than before. In both cases we got some pretty strong candidates who won the presidency in Nixon and Reagan.
AJ rightly makes the case that that the current system is FUBAR, but the fact is that the fix – when you actually read the thing – was worse than the wound.
It’s time now to put the thing aside go back to the drawing board. Not that everything needs to be scrapped, but the present bill is DOA and the sooner we accept that the quicker we move on.
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Bobby
June 10th, 2007 at 7:45 am
1Mac-
Good show yesterday.
GOP a shambles? I’s say no. Finally Republicans, make that Americans, seem to have had enough of freewheeling looney legislators. If enough people act now they can get a handle on the next election before it’s too late.
Like these people: Prayers do get answered!! A RECALL PETITION by another name is still a beautiful sight. Check out the Dump Lindsay Graham movement. Michelle Malkin has links:
http://www.michellemalkin.com/
I like the countdown clock.
Maybe this will catch on. As I’ve said, it’s pretty easy to do.
So, how about it Calif.? A Dump Nancy site? How about it PA? You have a couple of candidates, and more than enough reason: Dump Murtha, Dump Spector.
Aint this Internet great!!
Dale in Atlanta
June 10th, 2007 at 8:27 am
2Mac: thanks for addressing this issue in an intelligent, calm, and more immportantly, a rational manner.
I’m a FORMER-reader of AJ’s Blog, and he has LOST his mind on this issue.
Thanks again
R/dale
shield
June 10th, 2007 at 10:16 am
3SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST FIRST
AND FIRST
I mean give me an f’in break…
Can you imagine how many illegals
would be crossing the border from
all sorts of countries…if a
bill was passed without stopping those blasted illegals FIRST!!!!
Fence it like ISRAEL’S fence.
Let’s take all the monies being
spent right now on illegals…we’d
have more than enough to pay for
it.
coffee260
June 10th, 2007 at 10:40 am
4Mac, I enjoy your blog and read it everyday. I’m glad you have come to see the immigration bill for what it is, a huge 800 page kabuki dance. I do want to take issue with one thing you said and which I agree with you on; That’s where you said that your, “…blogging pal AJ Strata are eulogizing the demise of the GOP after the immigration bill went down (for now) in flames,…” You left out one part of AJ Strata’s eulogy that isn’t so favorable to his fellow conservatives.
He has done nothing but malign and call names of those who happen to disagree with him on this immigration bill. Not only has he adopted the M.O. I just mentioned, but he doesn’t want to address the specifics. Basically, if you don’t agree with him you are a hypochondriac, a nativist, a bigot, a racist, the far right, the anti-immigration crowd, exaggerating and hyperventilating former conservative allies, serial exaggerators, and that’s just his latest post.
It’d take all day to document the hateful things he’s called opponents of the immigration bill and quite frankly, I’ve lost some respect for AJ. I still read his blog because he has some good viewpoints, but I‚Äôve about had it with his sanctimonious, self righteous hysteria towards me and people who have the same opinion as I do.
AJ Strata, ever since this whole immigration debate got legs, has devolved into something other than a clear thinker.
At first he reminded me of somebody else in the blogsphere but I couldn’t put my finger on who. However, after reading a post where he just blindly ranted on about the far right and hypochondriacs it hit me who that someone was; Andrew Sullivan.
Like Sullivan on the topic of ‚Äútorture,” AJ has totally come unhinged, and is no longer very reasonable. In his insane and maniacal frenzy to criticize anyone who disagrees with him on immigration, it looks as if he took a page out of Sullivan’s own play book. And like Sullivan, a one time reasoned individual, he have become so venomous and hateful to people like myself it‚Äôs hard to even read his screeds.
I hope after this whole debate is over AJ Strata will return to his old self and drop the hate filled tactics usually used by the loony left.
Bikerken
January 7th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
5Hi Dale, Coffee, My name is ken and I’m an AJholic. (Hi Ken.)
I too was called every such racists name in the book for not bowing down to kiss mexico’s ass.
I have to agree with your post, to paraphrase Mark Twain, “The rumors of the GOP’s death have been greatly exaggerated.” Campaigns are about determining who’s in the race. The election comes down to a choice of two options. I don’t think most independents will break for an Obama or a Clinton. Obama is still a college quarterback, he hasn’t got hit by the big boys yet. He keep talking about change. Change what? this guy had less than two years as a junior senator and he didn’t do ANYTHING. The only thing he’s going to change are his diapers. Hillary? We can already see that Hill is not the sure thing that she thought she was. Kudo’s to Rush Limbaugh, he saw this months ago and said exactly this kind of thing would happen. The fact is, that there are just too many men in this country who would rather get re-circumcised with a butterknife than to vote for that screaming,”House fell on my sister” B”"ch.
Now I have a positive story to tell. I was down in Tucson AZ to visit family over the Christmas holiday for three days. I stopped in to get my car washed at one of those drive thru dry off places. I was STUNNED! A young black man came up to take my money, after coming out to the drying area, three white teenagers and a black teenage girl ran out and towel dried the car, I did not see one mexican anywhere! It’s probably been twenty years since I’ve seen a sight like than in this part of the county. The kids were all hard working, friendly, polite and I tipped them well. Now I have to ask, what were these kids doing before AZ passed their new law that can take away your business license for using illegal labor? Are these the Americans who would not do the job before? What a load of Horsepussy! Mark my words, America is about to find out just how much Americans will work in Arizona. And those businesses that fold because they can’t use slave labor anymore will be no great loss!
Nice to see you around Dale. Coffee, don’t be bitter! you’ll end up at Starbucks!
Life is all cake and crap. Sometimes you just run out of cake.
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