29 Jun
Posted by MacRanger as Uncategorized
If you wanted to really give yourself a laugh today all you had to do was to read all the moonbat logs on the twarted London terrorist attacks. In a word – denial.
Greg Gutfield has a bit up at the Huffington Puffington Post that takes the nutbags to task. A little taste?
“Folks, I just spent three hours surfing the net and did I learn a lot! Did you know that most of the news we get is controlled by the Bu$hies? Let me enlighten you about today’s so-called terrorist bombing attempt in London:
1. There is no proof that this was terrorism. With Blair gone, there IS no more terrorism in the UK. This was obviously just someone’s car, probably belonging to a nail salesman, who kept a lot of samples in his car. He was on his way to a barbecue, of course, which explains the propane. And he needed the extra gas, too, because – hello! – he was driving a gas-guzzler (instead of a hybrid, which is really mean-spirited).
So in effect, this was some right-wing, global warming-enabling carpenter on his way to char little animals for his own gratification.
2. Are we not supposed to notice it’s the first full day of Gordon Brown’s administration? This is a very CONVENIENT time for George Bush to claim terrorism is continuing. Tony Blair, obviously knew about this in advance and in a cowardly fashion, and at the behest of his Bu$h Yankee overlords, left office this week.”
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Kitty
June 30th, 2007 at 4:19 am
1OMG, that is hilarious!!
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stevevvs
June 30th, 2007 at 5:48 am
2They will never change! Truely sick people!
Mac,
As a war supporter, I still have questions. Do you think Our Govermnent as a whole really understands who we are fighting? I have to admite, I was pretty nieve for years. Then I baught Obsession, which made me realize I truely didn’t know who we were fighting! From there I baught America Alone by Mark Steyn, then, Now they call me infidel by Nonie Darwish,The Truth About Muhammad by Robert Spencer, Why I left Jihad by Walid Shoebat, Because They Hate by Brigitte Gabriel,Infidel by Ayaan Hirsi Ali, The Caged Virgin by her as well. And I also got Islam: What The West Need To Know. By watching and reading these, I realized I sure did not know didlie squat either.
While I support the war effort, I’m clueless as to how it can ever end, not just in Iraq or Afghanistan, but everywhere. I mean, their children are indoctrinated at the earliest possible age to hate Jews and Infidels and to want to die a martyr to please Allah. Islam is so much more than a religion, it is a way of life. It’s Sharia law, under which no woman really has any rights. And Sharia law is in the Constitution’s of both of the Countries we are trying to bring out of the stone ages.
If we don’t fight this war we are in trouble, big time. On the other hand, if we don’t win it, we are in trouble too. But how are we going to win a war against an enemy that keeps indoctrinating it’s young, and which has no shortage of volunteers to die a martyr, and head to paradice with the 72 virgins? There are about 1.4 billion Muslims world wide and around 15% take the Koran seriously. That is a whole lot of Jihadists, with more willing applicants everyday. I just don’t ever see this war ending, even though it must be faught!
Take Care, need to get going, have to help a friend move today.
Paul
June 30th, 2007 at 6:52 am
3Muslims don’t hate Jews (there are hundreds of thousands of Jews throughout Muslim countries in the Middle East), it is only Israel that they hate.
The problem with Muslims is that they see themselves as Muslims first, British, Iraqi etc second, but apparently only when dealing with other religions. They have no qualms about killing each other in the name of their nation, but as soon as ‘infidels’ start killing Muslims it’s “JIHAD!”
These British Muslims are fighting against their homeland as they believe that Britain is killing Muslim ‘brothers’, brothers that they have nothing in common with, other than Islam.
They turn everything into a ‘us against them’ situation, but with 95+% of people in the UK being non Muslim, they’re on the wrong side. British people are pretty stoic, but sooner or later there will be a backlash against those that are recruiting, encouraging and harbouring these extremists.
stevevvs
June 30th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
4Paul ,
I beg to differ. Middle East Muslims all hate Jews. They are bread to hate them. The “Extremists” as you call them are only following The Koran, and Allahs word. That is the problem. Islam has been spread by the sword. Look up Sura 98:6, 9:5, 9:29,9:11,5:33,8:67 for starters.
We in the west are just not knowledgable on any of this. That is why I started reading books on it, to try to gain knowledge. I have a book by a Lebanese, Egyptian, Jordanian-Palastinian, two by a Somali, and one by a expert on Islam.
Three great websites to learn about Islam are Jihad Watch.org, The Religion of Peace.com, and Front Page Mag.
And every book I have, backs up the others.
I just have to wonder how many people in the Pentagon, The White House, and the Congress really know just what we are up against.
We have a daunting task ahead of us. I do not think there is a political will to carry this on long enough to win. I hope there is, but I doubt it.
Look up September 11, 1683. This was the high point of Islamic Expansion. I think they chose that date to attack to signal Islam is back, and ready to pick up where they left off.
The Muslims see the extension of Jihad as a war liberating the Infidels from their infidelity, and a privilege to the Infidels to enter into the Religion of Islam, and to abandon their wrongful beliefs, and convert to the only true religion, Islam.
Islam is a form of Government to the World. Islam is belief system that mandates warfare on unbelievers. Convert, Dhimminatude, or die.
Why are we not being taught this? Political Correctness and Fear.
stevevvs
June 30th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
5There are Millions of Arab Muslims living in Israel, you just won’t find more than a handfull of Jews in the Arab world. And they have been driving the Christians out of the Middle East. Lebanon was a majority Christian Country up till they were taken over in the late 1970′s. And the Iraqi Christians have been driven out in droves by the Muslims. Michael Yon, and the Web Sites I mentioned above have all reported on this. In fact, the Middle East was majority Christian but starting around 640 A.D. the Muslims started their march.
If you want to read about the hell christians have gone thru in Lebanon, read: Because They Hate, by Brigitte Gabriel. I could not recommend a better book. Just go to Amazon and read the comments on it. In fact, go to amazon and read about all the books I posted above. Pick one, they are all excellent.
Take Care Folks
Paul
June 30th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
6Sorry stevevvs, that isn’t strictly true. Iran for instance, one of the most devoutly Muslim countries in the world has the largest population of Jews in the Middle East outside of Israel. Surely if what you were saying is true, they’d have been converted long before now, but they have happily practised their religion in Iran for 3,000 years.
What about Israel? Israel itself was formed in 1948, but before that it was Palestine and ruled by Muslims from about 638AD up until the first world war, in fact it was the Muslims that allowed the Jews to return to the Holy Lands and practise their religion there after they were kicked out by the Romans 500 years before. Thousands upon thousands of Jews lived quite happily in Palestine, long before the State of Israel was formed.
Iran, Lebanon, Iraq in fact many countries in the Middle East have had large Christian populations for centuries and all lived there quite happily. Contrast that with the Moors in Spain and you will see that all religions have their colour pasts and forced conversions.
Extremism is a modern invention, a return to the old ways of Islam that in reality never existed. Many Muslims yearn for a return to the days of the Caliphate, even though when under it they couldn’t wait to be rid of it (see Arab Revolt and Laurence of Arabia).
While I am not a big fan of Islam myself, I think it is unfair to tar all Muslims with the same brush, because of an evil, twisted power hungry few.
stevevvs
June 30th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
710-4 Paul. I guess my history books, and Middle East Books are all incorrect. Gosh, I’m silly.
Meanwhile in todays world:
http://jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/
Muslim rule in Nigerian state “chokes” Christian community
Islamic Tolerance Alert, and an update on the plight of Christians in Nigeria. “Nigeria – Muslim Rule in Kebbi State Chokes Church,” from Compass Direct
Of course, such actions follow the orders of Muhammad himself: baddala deenahu faqtuhu — “If anyone changes his religion, kill him” (Sahih Bukhari 9.84.57).
Man Sexually Assaulted in Pakistan After Refusing to Convert to Islam
No Compulsion In Religion Alert from Pakistan. From Christian Today
Malaysian state stiffens penalties for those who leave Islam
No Compulsion in Religion Alert from modern, moderate Malaysia: “Tougher law for Malaysia converts,” from Al-Jazeera (thanks to LGF):
Sudan rape laws ‘need overhaul’
This report, characteristically enough, never mentions Islam, and implies that these laws are all particularly Sudanese. Yet every legal provision it mentions is Sharia-based. It sounds from this as if Sudan’s rape laws are based on Sharia, which allows for rape and adultery to be established only by the testimony of four male Muslim witnesses who actually saw the act. This is based on Qur’an 4:15 and other passages, along with ahadith about an accusation of adultery against Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha.
women who admitted being raped also risked being prosecuted themselves for having sex outside marriage – an offence punishable by 100 lashes or death by stoning.
That is in accord with Qur’an 24:2, which mandates the hundred lashes, and several ahadith, notably this one, in which Muhammad stones adulterers.
Pennsylvania: Attempted honor killing
“A woman who did not identify herself said this was not a criminal case but a family matter between them and their daughter’s boyfriend.” That’s how such cases are treated now all over the Islamic world. And how they will soon be treated in Europe, and eventually in Pennsylvania, unless Westerners start to wake up.
Police: Father, Son Try To Kidnap Daughter’s Fianc?©,” from Philadelphia’s NBC10.com,
Giuliani: Let’s not be fooled again, let’s help Fatah
Rudy says we must not get fooled again, and fall for someone like Arafat. So, he says…let’s aid Fatah. Hard-nosed and unfoolable as ever, eh, Rudy?
“Giuliani Calls for Increasing American Support for Fatah,” by Marc Santora for the New York Times
You may recall that Jordan ruled the West Bank from 1948 to 1967, and there was no Palestinian nationalist movement then. Now, why was that?
More incisive analysis from Giuliani here. He’s missed a chance to explain what the war is, and what can be done to weaken the global jihad more effectively.
Paul
July 1st, 2007 at 5:23 am
8Most of the books you listed were written by people with an axe to grind. The problem with reading biased book is that it gives you a one sided view, in some cases an extreme view of events.
To put it plainly, some people have told you things, that in all likelihood are based mainly on their own opinions, you have believed them and in doing so formed your own tainted opinion of another people. This is precisely how extremism works, you should do your own research and try and build up a picture of both sides of the argument. Otherwise you are no better than those who listen to the teachings of people like Moqtada Al Sadr and treat them as Gospel.
Muslims extremists are a problem, as are the dumb sheep that follow them (most of whom have no idea about their own religion, e.g. pictures of Mohammed, Alcohol, the hijab etc), but that doesn’t mean that all Muslims are bad. Don’t forget that the people that suffer most under extremists, are and always will be, other Muslims.
As for quotes from a religious book, it is easy to take them out of context, for example:
“Take your son, your only son ‚Äì yes, Isaac, whom you love so much ‚Äì and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you.” (Genesis 22:1-18)
Human Sacrifice? If you didn’t know the full story that would give you the impression of a pretty sick God.
And worse.
“But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.” (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
“If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbours wife.” (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
” Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.” (Zechariah 14:1-2)
And those are just the passages pertaining to rape.
What about infidels? That word was used by Christians long before Islam came along.
“Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.” (Deuteronomy 17:12)
“If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.” (Leviticus 20:10)
“Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshipping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.” (Deuteronomy 17:2-5)
“Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children.” (Isaiah 13:15-18)
There are plenty more, but that doesn’t make all Christians murdering, raping, baby killing monsters.
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