In most cases where a travesty of justice occurs from a verdict it only takes an interview or two of jurors to find out the reason why. Case in example - self appointed Libby jury spokesman, and card carrying liberal democrat Denis Collins.
Note in his dance before the media he let the cat out in reqards to at least his particular bias in the matter.
“I‚Äôm not saying we didn‚Äôt think Mr. Libby was guilty of the things we found him guilty of,‚Äù Collins said. ‚ÄúIt seemed like he was, as Mr. Wells [Ted Wells, Libby‚Äôs attorney] put it, he was the fall guy.‚Äù
In fact, Collins said, the focus on Libby frustrated the jurors, who had hoped to get a crack at the larger issues.
“What we’re in court deciding seems to be a level or two down from what, before we went into the jury, we supposed the trial was about, or had been initially about, which was who leaked” Plame’s identity.
“Some jurors commented at some point: ‘I wish we weren’t judging Libby. You know, this sucks. We don’t like being here.’ But that wasn’t our choice.”
The fact is Collins is admitting that they broke the Judge Walton’s instructions that the “status” or rather “non-status” of Valerie Plame was NOT to be considered - nor even mentioned in the juries deliberations.
Then halfway through his dance Collins seemed to remember that point, and back tracked:
“The belief of the jury was [Libby] was tasked by the vice president to talk to reporters,‚Äù said Collins, a former staff writer for The Washington Post who said he felt honor-bound as a journalist to speak with reporters. ‚ÄúWe never came to any conclusion whether Cheney would have told him what exactly to say.‚Äù
Collins let the public in on how the jury approached the case, and in doing so, he demolished the speculation of numerous trial watchers about what was important and what was not.
The jurors focused with great intensity on the facts as stated by Fitzgerald and largely disregarded much-discussed questions of whether there was any cover-up of the leak and, if so, whether Cheney orchestrated it, Collins said.
“We had eight hours of grand jury testimony from Libby, so that was good. Hearing from Cheney, I think it would have been interesting,” he acknowledged. But he added: “I’m not sure what it would have done. I don’t have any idea what he would have said.”
In certain circumstances, it is a crime to disclose the identity of a covert CIA operative, and whether Plame’s identity was, in fact, classified was argued at great length during the trial.
But in then end, Collins said, it ‚Äúwasn‚Äôt relevant‚Äù whether Plame‚Äôs identity was classified or not, ‚Äúso we never talked about that.”
Opps….
I think a little more digging into Collins is warranted. Fact of the matter is he sounds more like a poster at Daily Kos more than someone who should have had little to no interest in the trial - as a prospective juror should have. He sounds as though he has been coached.
Again, more needs to be known about Mr. Collins and I have a few folks digging that up now, I’ll let you know.
UPDATE: Did Mr. Collins have a “book idea” prior to the verdict?
UPDATE II: Seems Collins did have a deal with the Huffington Puffington Post.
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gumshoe
March 6th, 2007 at 8:31 pm
1“Collins let the public in on how the jury approached the case, and in doing so, he demolished the speculation of numerous trial watchers about what was important and what was not.”
“demolished”.
not a minor MsM dig at the blogosphere.
guees we’re not intended to “participate”
in democracy.
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“The jurors focused with great intensity on the facts as stated by Fitzgerald and largely disregarded much-discussed questions of whether there was any cover-up of the leak and, if so, whether Cheney orchestrated it, Collins said.”
ahhhh!…so *Cheney* put Armitage out there to start the whispering campaign,eh?
or maybe *Rove* pulls Armitage’s strings??
funny how Joe Wilson never did,nor has,expressed the desire to see Armitage “frog-marched”…despite his having been the original leaker.
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“In certain circumstances, it is a crime to disclose the identity of a covert CIA operative, and whether Plame‚Äôs identity was, in fact, classified was argued at great length during the trial.”
“whether Plame‚Äôs identity was, in fact, classified …..was argued at great length during the trial.”
this is _vague_ prose,possibly intentional.
the judge’s instructions were to exclude Plame’s CIA status from jury deliberations.
the only way this would not be a violation of the judge’s instructions is if the
WaPo author is conflating public chatter with what went on in the jury room.
AFAIK, Plame’s status was not the focus of the trial or the
defense or prosecution’s arguements.
IOW: editorializing,not reporting.
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“He[Collins] sounds
as though he has been coached.”
he’s a little too convenient.
ordi
March 7th, 2007 at 1:24 am
2Things that make you go hmmmmm
In the jury selection phase, before Collins name came out, he was identified as having worked with Bob Woodward at the Post and being a neighbor of NBC’s Tim Russert. Both would later testify in the case.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003554336
Why put him on the jury?
Kitty
March 7th, 2007 at 6:05 am
3How in HELL did he ever pass muster with Libby’s lawyer during voi dire?
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