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Is Iraq all that bad?

15 January 2007 No Comment

The answer is no. In fact in spite of what we hear from Chicken Littles like Chuck Hagel, we are winning. However, with the last three years of “quagmire” drumbeat from the press about post war Iraq it’s no wonder the American public are woefully ignorant about how things are really going. Point of fact, the war in Iraq has been won, as the key objective was to remove Saddam from power, and that was accomplished two years ago. So for clarity (and it’s amazing this point hasn’t be made clear in the argument) we aren’t talking about “winning the war”, but of successfully administering the occupation and restoration phases, and allowing Iraq to govern on it’s own..

Back in 2003 Dr. Rice made a comparison between the post war resistance in Germany and that of Iraq are very different, the time tables for reconstruction and the instituting of a new Government are not.

For instance Iraq had elections (2 years) in a far shorter time than postwar Germany (4 years) in spite of significant post-war support. Germany would be effectively stablized until 1950. In the above link, Slate’s Fred Kaplin walked away thinking he completely destroyed the comparisons which were made mostly from this 1945 interview with Allen W. Dulles, who was the main American liaison with the German resistance and a close observer of the early stages of the postwar occupation.

Kaplin’s ‘assessment’ back in the 2003 was premature to say the least as now a full three years later the comparisons are much greater than thought. Primarily in the institution of an effective and strong government. Dulles noted that one of the key issues of difficulty was that many “qualified” individuals had been excluded from service due to previous affiliations with the Nazis. Note that in post war Iraq we are using many of the individuals who hitherto had served Saddam to run things.

But more than just the historical comparisons there the recurrent problems then as now with how the conditions in Iraq are being reported. You would be hard pressed to have seen a single report from any of the news organizations that didn’t report only the chaos, deaths, car bombings, etc, and completely ignore what are significant facts about post war Iraq. You would think that there is a terrorist attack, car bombing, IED, every five minutes happening in every city and town. But that is simply false and not only that a complete and purposed lie on the part of our media.

However, to clarify everything, I found this interview in November 2006, by Dr. Tadeusz A. Kisielewski , to be quite interesting and on point with what I’m trying to say in this post. It’s a long article, but I’ll quote significant parts as they describe both the “before and after” of the Iraq question.

“The main argument against intervening in Iraq was that it might cause terrorism to increase. This accusation is false. It is true that up to 2003 there were no terrorist attacks in Iraq, which was free of international Islamic terrorist groups. But this does not mean that in that same time period there were no victims of terrorism. Statistics for the years 1968-2003 show that over thirty-five years Saddam Hussein‚Äôs reign of terror caused the death of 28,600 people a year, or 80 people a day. Fortunately the terrorist attacks after the fall of Baghdad have not managed to cause as many casualties, and their activity decreased after the parliamentary elections.

Let us next consider the areas in which Islamic terrorist activity occurs. If you ask a well educated European politician how many names of cities and towns in Iraq he knows, most probably he will not be able to name more than 8 or 10. They would be the cities in which terrorist attacks have occurred which were later publicized by the media. Besides ethnically diverse Baghdad, with its population of 4.5 million people, the rest are mostly cities in the so-called Sunni Triangle. The rest of the territory of this extensive country (435, 000 square kilometers) is calm, and its people are safe. It does not mean that terrorist attacks in these 8-10 cities do not destabilize Iraq, or that people living in these cities are safe. But the exaggerated media reports coming out of Iraq lead to the spread of untruths.

Again, terrorist attacks are not as widespread as the media would have us believe and indeed in comparison they pale in comparison to the relative calm of much of the country.

Continuing on the true benefits of invading Iraq:

” The situation in the Middle East has been widely commented on, and opinions vary. Some commentators believe that the ‚Äúrevolution of freedom‚Äù is already beginning in the region. They can point to such successes as:

– The victory of the moderate Mahmud Abbas in the presidential elections in Palestine.

– The high voter turn out – despite terrorist threats – in the parliamentary elections in Iraq.

– Elections to municipal councils, the first elections ever held in Saudi Arabia. (Although these are only partially free, as women were not allowed to vote, and half of every municipal council is appointed.)

– Spontaneous demonstration by the Lebanese people against the presence of Syrian forces, and the noticeably non-spontaneous counter-demonstrations.

– The announcement that more than one candidate will be allowed in presidential elections in Egypt.

Others think that these are mere superficial changes, with no greater meaning for the future of the region. Neither of the above opinions is correct.

Clearly the monarchies and dictatorships of the region have lost their resilience. Nothing will be the same again. The only questions remaining are how fast the changes will occur, and what their ultimate outcome will be. These changes have been initiated by external factors: namely the oft-condemned intervention in Iraq. The U.S. ‚Äì against the opinion of its adversaries and some of its formal allies ‚Äì understands that democracy, especially in its Western form, can not be simply imported as a finished product. George W. Bush has begun to admit, unnecessarily, that the intervention in Iraq has not fully achieved its goals. The immediate, stated purposes of the intervention: to deprive Iraq of weapons of mass destruction or the capacity to build such; to eliminate a murderous political regime; and to remove Iraq from the list of countries supporting terrorism, (not just Islamic terrorism), were all true.”

It’s time to begin to challenge the leftist propagada that comes from our established MSM and see it for what it is, a detraction from the truth. The truth is that Iraq is even now, and will be eventually stablized. The truth is that while there are terrorist attacks they aren’t as far reaching nor widespread as the news would tell you. The truth is that in a war that has involved hundreds of thousands of troops in combat operations we have sufferered 3000 casulties (6000 were lost in one training exercise in preparation for D-Day). While not to lessen the sacrifice, the number is astounding and a testiment to the professionalism of our armed forces. On the other hand the MSM uses the deaths only as a “told you so”, prostituting their pain for their agenda.

Yet their sacrifice is not in vain, for the change has begun in the middle east, as the old establishments and ideas are dying a slow and painful death.

In ten years you will see wide spread use of the democracy model and less and less of the theocratic one. You will see more and more voting taking place for leadership where they had never voted before. You will see the people themselves rise up and take their own countries back as they realize – what we did in our early history – their own empowerment through democratic principles.

Look anywhere you want in the middle east and you already see the change spreading. Of course the media nor the left can allow the Bush Doctine to be seen as a success, much as they tried to destroy the legacy and acheivement of Ronald Reagan who brought the Soviet Union to it’s knees.

But they can’t hold it in forever and indeed, the truth is beginning to come out and be known.

We ARE winning in Iraq!

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  • shm10 said:

    But Mac, Hillary was just there and said we aren’t winning and can’t win in Iraq…oh really?

    I agree it is time to try to debunk the MSM take on this war on terror but there are not many mediums to use to get there. Word of mouth doesn’t seem to work as most people only educated themselves with the msm and national news networks. Any ideas how else we can help other than letters to congress, most of which I believe go unread or ignored.

    I agree, we are winning and that comes as no surprise given our wonderful military but there are but a few who actually believe it.

  • Carol Johnson said:

    Motor-mouth Murtha is also shooting his pie hole off again:

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/01/john-murtha-absolutely-loses-it.html

    unbelievable!

  • pagar said:

    How can any American support the terrorists? That is all the US “we can not win in Iraq” crowd is doing, Supporting terrorists, why?

  • Carol Johnson said:

    Mac,

    Off topic but I thought you might like to blog or comment on this. I found these comments over at Free Republic today:

    …..

    Here is another interesting clip from Rocky’s memo:

    1) Pull the majority along as far as we can on issues that may lead to major new disclosures regarding improper or questionable conduct by administration officials. We are having some success in that regard.

    For example, in addition to the President’s State of the Union speech, the chairman [Sen. Pat Roberts] has agreed to look at the activities of the office of the Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, as well as Secretary Bolton’s office at the State Department.

    So…Rocky admits they want to (are) investigating the SOTU….and they got the FBI to investigate the Niger stuff. The two are directly related…I think Rocky’s fingerprints are all over the Special Investigation and we know that Fitzy is no bipartisan individual.

    I note the following excerpt for consideration as to who/how the FBI began investigating and questioning Libby:

    “B) Once we identify solid leads the majority does not want to pursue, we would attract more coverage and have greater credibility in that context than one in which we simply launch an independent investigation based on principled but vague notions regarding the use of intelligence.

    In the meantime, even without a specifically authorized independent investigation, we continue to act independently when we encounter footdragging on the part of the majority. For example, the FBI Niger investigation was done solely at the request of the vice chairman. We have independently submitted written requests to the DOD and we are preparing further independent requests for information.”

    Focus on the second to last line of the second paragraph.

    …..

    Anyone else besides me get an “ah ha” moment? PS: Chucky Schumer is in on this somewhere too…any bets?

    Carol

  • Renee said:

    Hi Carol,
    I remember seeing this memo a couple of years ago. Found it “The Hill”

    http://www.hillnews.com/news/110603/memo.aspx

    I was waiting for something big to pop last summer. Nothing. Our DOJ is spineless when it comes to the crimes of the Democrats.

  • shm10 said:

    Renee:

    Yes I remember that memo also. It is just so disconcerting that the dems keep skating away on all of these issues.

    If we had been fortunate to have strong leadership in both houses when we were in the majority I believe much of this would have been exposed in its entirety and stopped. However, that was not the case and the DOJ is hog tied by the FBI, CIA and State.

    My biggest concern now though is exactly what Mac alluded to in his original post. If we do not somehow impress on the people in this country the dangers we face, Iraq will look like a walk in the park. Do you see anyone but the President, Vice President and certain cabinet members who are willing to do that? Some courageous bloggers and a few commentators..most of the others, including our elected members of Congress are governing like dems…poll driven nonsense.

  • Renee said:

    I caught this video over at Hot Air. Pam Hess from UPI was on CNN and she said this:

    “What we need to be asking is, what happens if we lose? And no one will answer that question. If we lose, how are we going to mitigate the consequences of this?

    It’s so much easier for us to cover this as a political horse race. It’s on the cover of “The New York Times” today, what this means for the ‘08 election. But we’re not asking the central national security question, because it seems that if as a reporter you do ask the national security question, all of a sudden you’re carrying Bush’s water. There are national security questions at stake, and we’re ignoring them and the country is getting screwed.”

    I don’t know much about Pam Hess and her writings for the UPI, but we need more reporters asking the same question she did and getting this out to the American Public.

  • Renee said:

    Here’s the transcript. Sorry, should have included it in the posting above.

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0701/14/rs.01.html

  • shm10 said:

    Here is another great example of media distortion when it comes to Iraq. If you link please read to the end. The article should have begun where it ended. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2796220&page=1

  • shield said:

    I was just talking to a family member at Bragg about the 60minute interview with the GREAT President Bush. I ask the Braggie IF many in the military are now not supporting the War on Terror in Iraq as was stated on 60 Minutes. The Braggie told me HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO!!!! We are as much in support if not more so as EVER!!! And we love President Bush….

  • shm10 said:

    shield:

    Thanks for sharing. For those of us who have an understanding of the US military it is refreshing to hear first hand what we all believe we know.

    Thank your family member for their service to the country and please let them know there are many of us who totally support their missions.

  • shield said:

    shm10:

    Thank you and I’ll pass your thanks on to our wonderful troops. ;o)

    Our Troops really get it and consider the MSM an enemy + the others we will not name here, but we all know who they are….so do the troops.

    Below is a prayer request from our military at Ft. Bragg:

    Prayer chain for our Military..Please send this on after a short prayer. Prayer for our soldiers

    “Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they
    protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they
    perform for us in our time of need. Amen.”

    When you receive this, please stop for a moment and say a prayer for our troops around the world.

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