Foley Setup? – Part III – Did the Democratic Party Leadership know about Foley?
Several sources are telling me that there is an extreme amount of “nervousness” in the Democratic side of the isle that this so-called “Republican Scandal” may actually bite them in the ass in November. Seems that although Foley played the willing pervert, he might have actually been enable a bit, not by Republicans but by those sympathetic for the Democrat cause.
So we now know that George Soros funded CREW knowingly withheld possibly criminal information just so it could have the greatest political effect. Moreover, we know that a leftist “Gay Republican Outer”, actually played a material part in the plot as well, even going so far we believe as to pose as one of the chatters.
We have a bogus blogger site, http://www.stopsexpredators.blogspot.com, that this morning removed damaging comments, and has the FBI looking into who started it up. Again, more than likely the same poser mentioned above.
All of this on top of an nearly orchestrated response by the Democrats – far too orchestrated to be have enabled on the fly – to the Foley issue.
So the question is going to ratchet up now. “What did DEMOCRATS know, and more importantly, WHAT part did they play.
We’re going to soon find out.
Extra Note: On Brian (didn’t talk about it in 2005 because I was busy with Katrina) Ross’s blog, he now admits to receiving “52 separate instant message exchanges, which former pages say were sent by Foley, using the screen name Maf54, to two different boys under the age of 18.”
He adds….
“This message was dated April 2003, at approximately 7 p.m., according to the message time stamp.”
Excuse me? 2003? So there are all these recorded chat messages – messages that have to be chosen to be recorded as no chat or im software does that by default, coming like a flury, all of a sudden. Again, WHO held these messages in a “undeclosed location” and incidently, withheld evidence, from 2003 until now.
The Democratic leadership ought to be worried, because this is precisely what the DOJ and FBI and looking to find out.
UPDATE: Mark Levin, asking questions and taking names. I wonder if any pages would be willing to come forward to say if they had been approached in the past by anyone in say, CREW, or some other leftist organization. Better now than to be exposed later.
Which brings me to this question. Who says that these IM’s are authentic? Mr. Roger seems to have known about Mr. Foley’s IM screen name for quite a while.
ADDITIONAL: Just another thought. As back in my law enforcement days I actually worked a few internet predator cases, I would remind people of a few things. First, the FBI who is looking into this, will have to confirm that the supposed IMs actually came from a specific computer (printouts by themselves are not adequate evidence), Therefore it will have to be proven that these messages actually in fact came from a specific victims/perp’s computer. Subsequently they (victims) would have to testify or sign affidavits that they infact were at their respective computer consoles at on the date and time alleged.
This combined with the fact that if Foley goes to trial, the discovery phase just might prove embarrassing to some people who might have, you know, manufactured fake IMs. Remember, and this is key. Foley has admitted to some of the contact, but we don’t know HOW MUCH of the contact he has admitted to. Quite frankly, from the beginning, while I don’t doubt Foley was involved in such conduct, some of the scripts looked scripted and contrived.
A point previously made here and not refuted is that some of the IM’s look forged or at best tampered with. With that said, let’s not look at every unverified IMs that Brian Ross is putting on his blog as being real. After all yesterday Ross invited submissions. Don’t you think the KOS kids jumped on that invite?
In any case, if people did to a certain extent commit a fraud in relation to this case they will be discovered and proscecuted, they can bank on it.
UPDATE II: Byron York at NRO, confirms what I said about just what the FBI is looking at.
UPDATE III: Hugh Hewitt on fighting back. Amen Hugh!
Maybe the whole IM thing is bogus. What 16 to 17 year old boy would respond to the sicko messages. Children are way to hip to get caught up in this stuff unless they were interested. If they were interested, why tell any body. I’m thinking the person who received the messages was a plant to out Foley, not a page.
There is a new posting over at ABC’s Brian Ross comment section from an x-page from 1998:
When I was a Congressional Page in 1998, we pages were warned by former pages AS WELL as staffers in the house and page program to BEWARE and stay away from 3 GOP members of Congress due to past history and inappropriate behavior with other pages. Obviously Foley has resigned and we are grateful.
Although 2 members of Congress (at least that I know of and was warned of) still remain.
Let me say this: it doesnt end with the members of congress; high level staffers are doing the same thing!!
Posted by: Former Page – Summer 1998 | Oct 3, 2006 1:50:40 PM
I don’t know if I read it here or over a AJ Strata’s blog about a set up of more GOP Leaders, but it appears by what this “Page” is writing, something is coming down the “Pipe line”.
Here is the Link where I found this:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/new_foley_insta.html
I haven’t had the stomach to listen to this, but apparently Mike Rogers was on Ned Schultz’s show on Sept. 29.
http://audio.wegoted.com/podcasting/92906RogersMike.mp3
I only bring this up because I’m wondering if Rogers, operating in high smug mode, might have let anything “slip” during the interview.
You wrote,”Who says that these IM‚Äôs are authentic?” Brilliant!
Now lets hope for some answers.
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/are-these-the-players-behind-the-mark-foley-outing
Mac, thanks for reporting on this, I was beginning to worry that I was out of bounds to question the details of this scandal..
I put a post up about questioning the details at my blog and now I’m getting flak for “not focusing on Foley”, please. This whole thing reaks of a calculated sliming.
I raised some points that are similar to yours http://www.juneaublog.com thanks buddy and keep up the good work!!
In an update to his post..Steve Gilbert proves that Rogers had Foley’s email addy.
[...] Mac has his take on things here, he’s an ex-law enforcement dude and has some great reporting on it here.. [...]
Press Release: Passionate America to Release Identity of a Person Rep. Foley Instant Messaged
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Passionate America to Release Identity of a Person Rep. Foley Instant Messaged
Oklahoma City, OK – October 3, 2006
William Kerr a writer for http://passionateamerica.blogspot.com/ has discovered the identity of the one of the persons that Representative Mark Foley communicated with in instant messages. The information was found on a public website while Mr. Kerr was researching the Representative Foley scandal. Mr. Kerr is finalizing the story and will present his findings on October 4th, 2006 at 4pm Central Time. The story will be published at http://passionateamerica.blogspot.com/ and will be discussed on The Passionate America Show on http://www.wideawakesradio.com at 4pm central time. Mr. Kerr will explain how he discovered this information and how anyone could have found it. There is the possibility that this story will not be well received by the some major news media. Mr. Kerr’s evidence has been checked by many people to be accurate.
Thought this was interesting.
Clarice,
Extortion? Blackmail? Isn’t the message clear as day…change your vote or face the consequences?
…..
HEY…JUST GOT A RECORDED MESSAGE ON MY ANSWERING MACHINE from some group calling itself “American Family Voices” putting out talking points about the Foley scandal saying that Hastert and the Republicans knew about Foley’s sexual activities for at least 9 months…before I cut off the message by hanging up.
Damn. Hang on…this is going to get good, folks.
Carol
Team Democrats:Sex Police?
Or is the latest new new Dem campaign theme We’d Be Better Sex Cops?
Can someone please explain some things to me?
How did Rogers get Foley’s email address contact? Did he hack in?
What are considered IMs? How are they sent? Are they text messages on a cell phone or are they generated on a computer?
Foleygate…
It’s always about the coverup, or the incomplete investigations, isn’t it….
Carol, I;m told there will be a story about American Family Values online at NRO tomorrow. There’s stuff on FR about it..HERE”S HOT NEWS:
Dick Morris just said on FOX that a respected reporter told him that she has proof that a senior democrat member of congress knew about the IMs months ago–unlike Hastert.
That’s too juicy not to get out there.
Clarice,
I’m liking Nancy for it…whadaya think?
Carol
[...] Macranger of Macsmind hits back: Several sources are telling me that there is an extreme amount of “nervousness” in the Democratic side of the isle that this so-called “Republican Scandal” may actually bite them in the ass in November. Seems that although Foley played the willing pervert, he might have actually been enable a bit, not by Republicans but by those sympathetic for the Democrat cause. [...]
I just saw Major Garrett on Brit Hume. He had a reporter that said he was shocked to see Maf54 log on to AIM today! The reporter tried to slip in a quick question, but Maf54 logged off.
I don’t know. I’m thinking Foley could’ve turned on his laptop and AIM sould have logged on automatically. But do they let you do that at rehab?
Or could it have been the IM imposter?
SG,
My bet is it was on imposter.
Does anyone have the video on Dick Morris or know what show he was on when he said it?
There is virtually NO way that Maf54 is an imposter. AOL knows full well who had that name and the chances that they deleted that specific username and let someone else have it, are slim to impossible due to legal matters.
BUT, and this is a big BUT, if someone had Foley’s chat username and password you could login from whatever computer/IP address that you wanted, all you would need is his username and password.
Actually, this kind of makes the plot thicken even more.
Does Foley have acess to the computer that created the original messages? And if he doesn’t is he the originator of the original messages?
Well this is getting even more nefarious by the second especially when you see the blatently forged messages that are on the Jawa Report..
I suppose that AOL could quash this in a heartbeat if they released information as to the the IP addresses of Maf54..
And so the plot thickens..
Keep up te good work!
Respectfully,
EJ
http://www.juneaublog.com
[...] “I just saw Major Garrett on Brit Hume. He had a reporter that said he was shocked to see Maf54 log on to AIM today! The reporter tried to slip in a quick question, but Maf54 logged off.” -Sarah Green, Macsmind Comments Section [...]
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