Comments on: Foley setup? - Part I http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/ Official Blog of the MacRanger Show, News and Insights Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:18:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Maf54, Where Are You? at Blog P.I. http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-711 Maf54, Where Are You? at Blog P.I. Mon, 09 Oct 2006 02:44:53 +0000 http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-711 [...] Speaking of bad advice, attempts to quibble over the age question don’t seem likely either to make the story go away any faster or to make Foley suddenly appear sympathetic. Also, it’s hard to see the percentage in fretting over the fact that Democrats get as much electoral mileage as they can out of the erstwhile Maf54’s astonishing lack of discretion or propriety. Why shouldn’t they? Politics is full of lemons, but on those rare occasions when you’re handed a glass of lemonade, the thing is to enjoy drinking it. [...] [...] Speaking of bad advice, attempts to quibble over the age question don’t seem likely either to make the story go away any faster or to make Foley suddenly appear sympathetic. Also, it’s hard to see the percentage in fretting over the fact that Democrats get as much electoral mileage as they can out of the erstwhile Maf54’s astonishing lack of discretion or propriety. Why shouldn’t they? Politics is full of lemons, but on those rare occasions when you’re handed a glass of lemonade, the thing is to enjoy drinking it. [...]

]]> By: A Second Hand Conjecture » As The Worm Turns http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-710 A Second Hand Conjecture » As The Worm Turns Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:49:32 +0000 http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-710 [...] (3) The second betrayal of the pages used by Foley, this time by those who withheld pertinent information for political purposes, and those who now are using the plight of those pages to bash the entire Republican Party. [...] [...] (3) The second betrayal of the pages used by Foley, this time by those who withheld pertinent information for political purposes, and those who now are using the plight of those pages to bash the entire Republican Party. [...]

]]> By: Americas North Shore Journal http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-709 Americas North Shore Journal Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:12:20 +0000 http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-709 [...] Gateway Pundit is among the leaders in exploring the plot by gay activists and the Democratic Party to create this scandal right now by covering up the facts for nearly a year. Radical Gay Rights Activists held on to information about Representative Foley for months and years. These “Rights Activists” knew that representative Foley had relationships with “young men less than half his age.” They did their own investigation on Foley. They even flew in their sources in to be interviewed about the Representative. They shared this information with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. They held on to the information for over a year. They wrote about how they would break the story at midterm elections. [...] [...] Gateway Pundit is among the leaders in exploring the plot by gay activists and the Democratic Party to create this scandal right now by covering up the facts for nearly a year. Radical Gay Rights Activists held on to information about Representative Foley for months and years. These “Rights Activists” knew that representative Foley had relationships with “young men less than half his age.” They did their own investigation on Foley. They even flew in their sources in to be interviewed about the Representative. They shared this information with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. They held on to the information for over a year. They wrote about how they would break the story at midterm elections. [...]

]]> By: The Real Ugly American.com » Blog Archive » Greenwald’s latest hate filled post http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-708 The Real Ugly American.com » Blog Archive » Greenwald’s latest hate filled post Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:39:49 +0000 http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-708 [...] Gateway Pundit is reporting this:¬† Radical Gay Rights Activists held on to information about Representative Foley for months and years. These “Rights Activists” knew that representative Foley had relationships with “young men less than half his age.” They did their own investigation on Foley. They even flew in their sources in to be interviewed about the Representative. They shared this information with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. They held on to the information for over a year. They wrote about how they would break the story at midterm elections.¬† [...] [...] Gateway Pundit is reporting this:¬† Radical Gay Rights Activists held on to information about Representative Foley for months and years. These “Rights Activists” knew that representative Foley had relationships with “young men less than half his age.” They did their own investigation on Foley. They even flew in their sources in to be interviewed about the Representative. They shared this information with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. They held on to the information for over a year. They wrote about how they would break the story at midterm elections.¬† [...]

]]> By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » The Foley Scandal Redux http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-706 Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » The Foley Scandal Redux Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:44:35 +0000 http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-706 [...] And then we have this by Gateway Pundit: Radical Gay Rights Activists held on to information about Representative Foley for months and years. These “Rights Activists” knew that representative Foley had relationships with “young men less than half his age.” They did their own investigation on Foley. They even flew in their sources in to be interviewed about the Representative. They shared this information with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. They held on to the information for over a year. They wrote about how they would break the story at midterm elections. [...] [...] And then we have this by Gateway Pundit: Radical Gay Rights Activists held on to information about Representative Foley for months and years. These “Rights Activists” knew that representative Foley had relationships with “young men less than half his age.” They did their own investigation on Foley. They even flew in their sources in to be interviewed about the Representative. They shared this information with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. They held on to the information for over a year. They wrote about how they would break the story at midterm elections. [...]

]]> By: Land of the Free, Home of the Brave » Blog Archive » Dizzy From The Foley Gate Spin http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-707 Land of the Free, Home of the Brave » Blog Archive » Dizzy From The Foley Gate Spin Wed, 04 Oct 2006 03:44:03 +0000 http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-707 [...] Foley setup? - Part I, Macranger, October 2, 2006, Macsmind. [...] [...] Foley setup? - Part I, Macranger, October 2, 2006, Macsmind. [...]

]]> By: Sarah Green http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-705 Sarah Green Tue, 03 Oct 2006 11:24:13 +0000 http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-705 Have you noticed that all the comments on Stop Sex Predators have been removed? Have you noticed that all the comments on Stop Sex Predators have been removed?

]]> By: A Blog For All http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-704 A Blog For All Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:53:49 +0000 http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-704 <strong>The Foley Scandal Grows...</strong> The fallout from the Mark Foley scandal grows in many directions - from the political to the criminal. The Florida GOP has decided upon a replacement for Mark Foley. He's three-term state legislator Joe Negron. Mark Foley, meanwhile has entered a reh.... The Foley Scandal Grows…

The fallout from the Mark Foley scandal grows in many directions - from the political to the criminal. The Florida GOP has decided upon a replacement for Mark Foley. He’s three-term state legislator Joe Negron. Mark Foley, meanwhile has entered a reh….

]]> By: Flopping Aces - Backup: Foleygate Has Begun http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-703 Flopping Aces - Backup: Foleygate Has Begun Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:54:01 +0000 http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-703 [...] Foleygate Has Begun I have redirected traffic from my main blog post at www.floppingaces.net to this backup blogger page since my server has just about exploded from the LGF traffic. IMPORTANT UPDATECHECK OUT UPDATE III AND IV BELOW!POSSIBLE ALTERATIONS DONE TO ORIGINAL EMAILS!END UPDATETom Maguire from JustOneMinute, Rick Moran from Rightwing Nuthouse, and Clarice Feldman from The American Thinker have been doing some wonderful research on the suspicious way in which this story took fire. In my earlier post I delved into the fact that the liberal group CREW had a big hand in getting the IM’s out. Now Rick has done some research on the website that supposedly broke the story:Stop Sex Predators came on line in late July with one post announcing its intention to “serve as a clearing house for the public to report sex predators and as a resource for concerned parents and citizens.”The next blog post wasn’t until August 17th where the writer listed in a rather desultory manner some more notable sex predators. After that, two posts on August 26.[…]The fourth and last post for the entire month of August was a cut and paste from Wikpedia of the Gary Condit affair. More “political predators” on a site dedicated to sex predators in general? Why?Then in September there were two more posts until Sept 21st where Foley is mentioned for the first time.I have been away for a while, so please accept my apologies for the lack of blog posts. BUT….while I was away, the blog has been noticed and some shocking emails have been received! I can hardly believe it! I’m posting each one below. It’s proof that the Congressional Corruption of the past is alive and well today. It’s up to us to expose it and stop this predatory harassment! Please promote the blog and email any further information to stopsexpredators@gmail.com . Together we will make a difference!Rick asks the same thing any of us would. How in the world did someone “notice” this blog with all of 6 posts and only started in July? How far down in google do you think this blog would be? Waaaaaay down.Why would anyone notice this blog? It has posted nothing original in its short existence. The rare postings means that it has not built up any audience whatsoever. The first Technorati reference to the blog is from two days ago. Even a Google search doesn’t show it on the first 10 pages when searching for “Stop Sex Predators.”And yet, 3 separate people who had contact with Congressman Foley somehow found this website independent of one another and supposedly sent emails to the owner of this site to complain about Foley’s inappropriate behavior.Possible? Yes. Probable? I’ll let you decide.I hearby declare shananigans…..get your broomsticks fellas.That’s not all of it, apparently some commentors to JustOneMinute believe they know who the owner of the blog is, one Jason Leopold:Clarice informs me that an old friend might be behind the Stop Sex Predators blog:One of the JOM (Just One Minute) posters who’s been paying attention thinks Jason Leopold is the owner of stopsexpredators. The only place we can find a link to the story is another site (from the desk of patrick J fitzgerald which we also think is Leopold) Leopold you may recall was writing all those crazy stories for Truthout including the one that Rove was indicted and the indictment would be unsealed in 24 hours.Highly speculative, but it fits. Leopold would have been able to make CREW aware of the emails published on the blog. Here’s ABC News on the genesis of the story:Yesterday, we asked the congressman about some much tamer e-mails from one page, and he said he was just being overly friendly. After we posted that story online, we began to hear from a number of other pages who sent these much more explicit, instant messages. When the congressman realized we had them, he resigned.Instant messages not emails. As ABC makes clear, there are two different stories. The question is, how many sources?Anyone have a feeling this is going to come back to bite the Democrats once more?UPDATEGuess what Brian Ross just posted, that Foley was known to be gay and the staff there told the pages to ignore his friendly behavior.A Republican staff member warned congressional pages five years ago to watch out for Congressman Mark Foley, according to a former page.Matthew Loraditch, a page in the 2001-2002 class, told ABC News he and other pages were warned about Foley by a supervisor in the House Clerk’s office.Loraditch, the president of the Page Alumni Association, said the pages were told “don’t get too wrapped up in him being too nice to you and all that kind of stuff.”[…]Loraditch says that some of the pages who “interacted” with Foley were hesitant to report his behavior because “members of Congress, they’ve got the power.” Many of the pages were hoping for careers in politics and feared Foley might seek retribution.Where in the world are the Democrats going to end up on this? Will they now come out against gays? Do they know that apparently in DC the age of consent is 16? Using your power to gain sexual favors (which there is no evidence that sex ever occurred with these pages) is horrible and he should have resigned, as he did.Unlike a certain Democrat…cough Clinton cough.UPDATE IIRay Robison notices the difference in reporting by our MSM outfits when it comes to a Republican.UPDATE III 2050hrs PSTAn important update here. Just Barking Mad has found that at least one of the emails in question have been altered by someone.Just Barking Mad found this email on that blog Stop Sex Predators:All fine and dandy. But check out the release from CREW, from page 5 of their release:Same exact email based on the narrative but a different subject line….Like I said, FoleyGate has begun.UPDATE IV 2105hrs PSTChecking on this alteration thing and it appears that the PDF from CREW is a forwarded message from the kid with him cutting and pasting text and omitting the header information. The only one with header information is the first one on Page 4.But this doesn’t explain how the emails looked as they did on the Stop Sex Predators blog. Did he cut and paste the header from Page 4 of the PDF and made the other emails look like that one?Smells fishy in Wonderland Alice.UPDATE V 2240hrs PSTApparently Wild Bill from Smoke Signals Blog has discovered who the IM’s were sent to and is asking for a response. From the IM’s it appears the interaction was not against his will so I doubt we will find out anything new if he does respond but alas, it’s worth a try.UPDATE VI 2245hrs PSTThis NYT’s article gives another side of Mr. Foley huh?In the hierarchy of Congress, the high school students who serve as Congressional pages fall somewhere near the bottom, seemingly invisible as they scurry through the hallways of the Capitol ferrying messages to powerful lawmakers who often fail to give them a second glance.In that rarefied world, Representative Mark Foley, the silver-haired Republican from Florida, stood out.He took pains to befriend the 16- and 17-year-old aides, several former pages said in interviews on Sunday. He chatted with them on the House floor, they said, sent handwritten notes and urged them to keep in touch when they left Washington for their hometowns.In 2002, he even stood up on the floor of the House, his eyes welling with tears, and commended the young men and women for their year of service. In his speech, Mr. Foley mentioned several of the high school students by name, describing a handwritten note to celebrate one young man’s graduation and a lunch with another at Morton’s steak house.Now I’m sure at this point many of you are saying, “well, he was so nice because he wanted to get in bed with them”But if he was gay how do you explain female pages giving the same stories?Ashley Gallo, a 21-year-old former page who is now a senior at Western Michigan University, said on Sunda y that many of her friends had viewed Mr. Foley as one of the few lawmakers who made a real effort to reach out to young people.“You didn’t have a lot of interaction with the members because most of them treated you like a kid, but he was pretty friendly,” said Ms. Gallo, who served as a page in 2001. “He would talk to people,” she said.“He would say, ‘Here’s my e-mail address if you want to keep in touch.’ I don’t think anyone thought anything of it. They saw him as a mentor or a reference.”The article goes on to detail other male pages who never experienced inappropiate contact from Mr. Foley.The sound your hearing is the sound of a scandal slowly coming to a stop and going in reverse.The article goes on to detail other male pages who never experienced inappropiate contact from Mr. Foley.The sound your hearing is the sound of a scandal slowly coming to a stop and going in reverse.UPDATE VII 2300hrs PSTYou know I’m at a loss to explain this other NYT’s article in which they go into any possible laws Foley may have broken. The writer explains that emails and IM’s involve no contact so they can be difficult to prosecute but:In the absence of physical contact, said Douglas A. Berman, a law professor at Ohio State University, some prosecutors reviewing e-mail messages like Mr. Foley’s “could say, ‘This is really gross, I need to take a shower,’ but not charge” the sender with a crime.But Professor Berman added, “There are cases in which people have done stuff that is not significantly worse and have had the book thrown at them.”Earlier this year, for instance, the Arizona Supreme Court upheld a 200-year sentence for a former Phoenix high school teacher convicted of possessing child pornography. The teacher, Morton R. Berger, was not charged with transmitting pornography or with having unlawful contact with minors.WTF! Ok now, emailing and IM’ing someone over the age of 16 (age of consent in DC) about sex is one thing but to compare it to child pornography is outrageous. Yes, what Mr. Foley did was morally wrong in my book but the teacher the Times compares him to, Mr. Morton Berger, possessed the following:Specifically, he was charged with possession of 20 photographs depicting, among other things, children being raped by adults, children engaging in sexual acts with other children, and children in sexual acts with animals.More:Morton R. Berger, who was a history teacher at Cortez High School, was arrested four years ago based on his possession of photographs, computer video files and computer photo files of children, all younger than 15, in sex acts. Prosecutors dismissed 15 counts but got convictions on the remaining 20.A bit different then sending consensual emails with someone over the age of consent don’t you think? It appears the Times does not agree….big surprise there.UPDATE VIII 2315hrs PSTWild Bill has posted a copy of each one of the disputed emails with the differences pointed out:First the one from CREW:And now the one from SSP:You know it almost looks like the author of SSP was read the email, maybe over the phone, and tried to produce something that looked like a faxed copy. Thing is he forgot all the little stuff.UPDATE IX 2358hrs PSTOk, last update for the night..gonna hit the sack. But I just had to highlight this statement from the executive director of CREW:Melanie Sloan, CREW’s executive director, said today, “It is horrifying to learn that some members of Congress were more concerned with covering up a potentially embarrassing situation than with protecting the teenage pages.” Sloan continued, “the American people, and particularly the parents of other pages, have a right to know if congressional leaders put politics above the safety of children.”More horrifying is that this organization apparently knew of these allegations and emails over the whole summer but choose the end of September to start the presskreig…..putting all these kids at risk so they could come up with their October Surprise.How special.UPDATE X 10/2/06 1430hrs PSTSince I have been unable to post updates due to server problems what with the huge amount of traffic from LGF it seems I have missed quite a bit.Macranger has found that the owner of BlogActive.net and the owner of SSP may be one in the same:They’re may be a possibilty that the one who runs Blog Active.com, and the one who runs Stop Sex Predators may be one in the same. That may be Mike Rogers, the infamous Gay Republican Outer. [...] [...] Foleygate Has Begun I have redirected traffic from my main blog post at http://www.floppingaces.net to this backup blogger page since my server has just about exploded from the LGF traffic. IMPORTANT UPDATECHECK OUT UPDATE III AND IV BELOW!POSSIBLE ALTERATIONS DONE TO ORIGINAL EMAILS!END UPDATETom Maguire from JustOneMinute, Rick Moran from Rightwing Nuthouse, and Clarice Feldman from The American Thinker have been doing some wonderful research on the suspicious way in which this story took fire. In my earlier post I delved into the fact that the liberal group CREW had a big hand in getting the IM’s out. Now Rick has done some research on the website that supposedly broke the story:Stop Sex Predators came on line in late July with one post announcing its intention to “serve as a clearing house for the public to report sex predators and as a resource for concerned parents and citizens.”The next blog post wasn’t until August 17th where the writer listed in a rather desultory manner some more notable sex predators. After that, two posts on August 26.[…]The fourth and last post for the entire month of August was a cut and paste from Wikpedia of the Gary Condit affair. More “political predators” on a site dedicated to sex predators in general? Why?Then in September there were two more posts until Sept 21st where Foley is mentioned for the first time.I have been away for a while, so please accept my apologies for the lack of blog posts. BUT….while I was away, the blog has been noticed and some shocking emails have been received! I can hardly believe it! I’m posting each one below. It’s proof that the Congressional Corruption of the past is alive and well today. It’s up to us to expose it and stop this predatory harassment! Please promote the blog and email any further information to stopsexpredators@gmail.com . Together we will make a difference!Rick asks the same thing any of us would. How in the world did someone “notice” this blog with all of 6 posts and only started in July? How far down in google do you think this blog would be? Waaaaaay down.Why would anyone notice this blog? It has posted nothing original in its short existence. The rare postings means that it has not built up any audience whatsoever. The first Technorati reference to the blog is from two days ago. Even a Google search doesn’t show it on the first 10 pages when searching for “Stop Sex Predators.”And yet, 3 separate people who had contact with Congressman Foley somehow found this website independent of one another and supposedly sent emails to the owner of this site to complain about Foley’s inappropriate behavior.Possible? Yes. Probable? I’ll let you decide.I hearby declare shananigans…..get your broomsticks fellas.That’s not all of it, apparently some commentors to JustOneMinute believe they know who the owner of the blog is, one Jason Leopold:Clarice informs me that an old friend might be behind the Stop Sex Predators blog:One of the JOM (Just One Minute) posters who’s been paying attention thinks Jason Leopold is the owner of stopsexpredators. The only place we can find a link to the story is another site (from the desk of patrick J fitzgerald which we also think is Leopold) Leopold you may recall was writing all those crazy stories for Truthout including the one that Rove was indicted and the indictment would be unsealed in 24 hours.Highly speculative, but it fits. Leopold would have been able to make CREW aware of the emails published on the blog. Here’s ABC News on the genesis of the story:Yesterday, we asked the congressman about some much tamer e-mails from one page, and he said he was just being overly friendly. After we posted that story online, we began to hear from a number of other pages who sent these much more explicit, instant messages. When the congressman realized we had them, he resigned.Instant messages not emails. As ABC makes clear, there are two different stories. The question is, how many sources?Anyone have a feeling this is going to come back to bite the Democrats once more?UPDATEGuess what Brian Ross just posted, that Foley was known to be gay and the staff there told the pages to ignore his friendly behavior.A Republican staff member warned congressional pages five years ago to watch out for Congressman Mark Foley, according to a former page.Matthew Loraditch, a page in the 2001-2002 class, told ABC News he and other pages were warned about Foley by a supervisor in the House Clerk’s office.Loraditch, the president of the Page Alumni Association, said the pages were told “don’t get too wrapped up in him being too nice to you and all that kind of stuff.”[…]Loraditch says that some of the pages who “interacted” with Foley were hesitant to report his behavior because “members of Congress, they’ve got the power.” Many of the pages were hoping for careers in politics and feared Foley might seek retribution.Where in the world are the Democrats going to end up on this? Will they now come out against gays? Do they know that apparently in DC the age of consent is 16? Using your power to gain sexual favors (which there is no evidence that sex ever occurred with these pages) is horrible and he should have resigned, as he did.Unlike a certain Democrat…cough Clinton cough.UPDATE IIRay Robison notices the difference in reporting by our MSM outfits when it comes to a Republican.UPDATE III 2050hrs PSTAn important update here. Just Barking Mad has found that at least one of the emails in question have been altered by someone.Just Barking Mad found this email on that blog Stop Sex Predators:All fine and dandy. But check out the release from CREW, from page 5 of their release:Same exact email based on the narrative but a different subject line….Like I said, FoleyGate has begun.UPDATE IV 2105hrs PSTChecking on this alteration thing and it appears that the PDF from CREW is a forwarded message from the kid with him cutting and pasting text and omitting the header information. The only one with header information is the first one on Page 4.But this doesn’t explain how the emails looked as they did on the Stop Sex Predators blog. Did he cut and paste the header from Page 4 of the PDF and made the other emails look like that one?Smells fishy in Wonderland Alice.UPDATE V 2240hrs PSTApparently Wild Bill from Smoke Signals Blog has discovered who the IM’s were sent to and is asking for a response. From the IM’s it appears the interaction was not against his will so I doubt we will find out anything new if he does respond but alas, it’s worth a try.UPDATE VI 2245hrs PSTThis NYT’s article gives another side of Mr. Foley huh?In the hierarchy of Congress, the high school students who serve as Congressional pages fall somewhere near the bottom, seemingly invisible as they scurry through the hallways of the Capitol ferrying messages to powerful lawmakers who often fail to give them a second glance.In that rarefied world, Representative Mark Foley, the silver-haired Republican from Florida, stood out.He took pains to befriend the 16- and 17-year-old aides, several former pages said in interviews on Sunday. He chatted with them on the House floor, they said, sent handwritten notes and urged them to keep in touch when they left Washington for their hometowns.In 2002, he even stood up on the floor of the House, his eyes welling with tears, and commended the young men and women for their year of service. In his speech, Mr. Foley mentioned several of the high school students by name, describing a handwritten note to celebrate one young man’s graduation and a lunch with another at Morton’s steak house.Now I’m sure at this point many of you are saying, “well, he was so nice because he wanted to get in bed with them”But if he was gay how do you explain female pages giving the same stories?Ashley Gallo, a 21-year-old former page who is now a senior at Western Michigan University, said on Sunda
y that many of her friends had viewed Mr. Foley as one of the few lawmakers who made a real effort to reach out to young people.“You didn’t have a lot of interaction with the members because most of them treated you like a kid, but he was pretty friendly,” said Ms. Gallo, who served as a page in 2001. “He would talk to people,” she said.“He would say, ‘Here’s my e-mail address if you want to keep in touch.’ I don’t think anyone thought anything of it. They saw him as a mentor or a reference.”The article goes on to detail other male pages who never experienced inappropiate contact from Mr. Foley.The sound your hearing is the sound of a scandal slowly coming to a stop and going in reverse.The article goes on to detail other male pages who never experienced inappropiate contact from Mr. Foley.The sound your hearing is the sound of a scandal slowly coming to a stop and going in reverse.UPDATE VII 2300hrs PSTYou know I’m at a loss to explain this other NYT’s article in which they go into any possible laws Foley may have broken. The writer explains that emails and IM’s involve no contact so they can be difficult to prosecute but:In the absence of physical contact, said Douglas A. Berman, a law professor at Ohio State University, some prosecutors reviewing e-mail messages like Mr. Foley’s “could say, ‘This is really gross, I need to take a shower,’ but not charge” the sender with a crime.But Professor Berman added, “There are cases in which people have done stuff that is not significantly worse and have had the book thrown at them.”Earlier this year, for instance, the Arizona Supreme Court upheld a 200-year sentence for a former Phoenix high school teacher convicted of possessing child pornography. The teacher, Morton R. Berger, was not charged with transmitting pornography or with having unlawful contact with minors.WTF! Ok now, emailing and IM’ing someone over the age of 16 (age of consent in DC) about sex is one thing but to compare it to child pornography is outrageous. Yes, what Mr. Foley did was morally wrong in my book but the teacher the Times compares him to, Mr. Morton Berger, possessed the following:Specifically, he was charged with possession of 20 photographs depicting, among other things, children being raped by adults, children engaging in sexual acts with other children, and children in sexual acts with animals.More:Morton R. Berger, who was a history teacher at Cortez High School, was arrested four years ago based on his possession of photographs, computer video files and computer photo files of children, all younger than 15, in sex acts. Prosecutors dismissed 15 counts but got convictions on the remaining 20.A bit different then sending consensual emails with someone over the age of consent don’t you think? It appears the Times does not agree….big surprise there.UPDATE VIII 2315hrs PSTWild Bill has posted a copy of each one of the disputed emails with the differences pointed out:First the one from CREW:And now the one from SSP:You know it almost looks like the author of SSP was read the email, maybe over the phone, and tried to produce something that looked like a faxed copy. Thing is he forgot all the little stuff.UPDATE IX 2358hrs PSTOk, last update for the night..gonna hit the sack. But I just had to highlight this statement from the executive director of CREW:Melanie Sloan, CREW’s executive director, said today, “It is horrifying to learn that some members of Congress were more concerned with covering up a potentially embarrassing situation than with protecting the teenage pages.” Sloan continued, “the American people, and particularly the parents of other pages, have a right to know if congressional leaders put politics above the safety of children.”More horrifying is that this organization apparently knew of these allegations and emails over the whole summer but choose the end of September to start the presskreig…..putting all these kids at risk so they could come up with their October Surprise.How special.UPDATE X 10/2/06 1430hrs PSTSince I have been unable to post updates due to server problems what with the huge amount of traffic from LGF it seems I have missed quite a bit.Macranger has found that the owner of BlogActive.net and the owner of SSP may be one in the same:They’re may be a possibilty that the one who runs Blog Active.com, and the one who runs Stop Sex Predators may be one in the same. That may be Mike Rogers, the infamous Gay Republican Outer. [...]

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Source of Foley e-mails identified? http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-702 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Source of Foley e-mails identified? Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:12:35 +0000 http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/10/02/foley-setup-part-i/#comment-702 [...] Maybe. Maybe. Keep scrolling until you reach Update II. [...] [...] Maybe. Maybe. Keep scrolling until you reach Update II. [...]

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