When you get stupid I get mad

02 Aug

Posted by MacRanger as Anti-Israel bias, Mel Gibson, Politics

Warning: Rant On.

1. What Mel Gibson said when he was drunk was wrong and stupid.

2. But this is also wrong and stupid, and childish.

Yeah the man was wrong, he apologized. You want to pile on and call him anti-semitic, fine, brand him and get it over with. But as Yeshua said, don’t be so quick to cast the first stone.

You know I work among people of Jewish faith and have for many years and as a Christian I have put up with my share of their stupid and quite frankly offensive remarks made towards my faith by them as well. This was no more true than when the Passion of the Christ was coming out.

Make no mistake, I call other on the their anti-semtic behavior when need be, just as when I see prejudice against any qroup. I find any kind of prejudice offensive to the nth degree.

But to hammer the guy into oblivion over this stupid incident - for which he apologized for twice - is in itself offensive and frankly pissing me off. Seriously, I wonder if this vitrol is at all aimed at the success of The Passion, in spite of efforts of the ADL at the time to “demonize” it. It just seems obvious at this point. Many in Hollywood were NOT happy with the success of the movie. Gibson drunken behavior surely gave them the opening they’ve been looking for. Not that it means that all this is over “jealousy” - people are mad and I understand that - but if the shoe fits, like wear it.

Well you know, to err is human…..forgiveness, as Father Johnathan who actually worked with Mel for two years:

“Yesterday, on FOX News Radio with Spencer Hughes, I applauded Mr. Foxman for his nobility in having accepted Mel‚Äôs apology. Today, however, I was surprised to see Mr. Foxman‚Äôs op-ed in the New York Post which calls into question Mel‚Äôs sincerity:

“I’m still skeptical because these are still words from his handlers ‚Äî the same people who brought you the first statement that didn’t acknowledge his anti-Semitism. I’d like to hear from the man himself. These words are still from his handlers ‚Äî Mel Gibson’s words in the police blotter, we know those are from him.”

If Mr. Foxman thinks Mel‚Äôs handlers wrote and distributed the statement without Mel‚Äôs full consent, he doesn‚Äôt know Mel Gibson. To ask for yet another apology is out of place and, in my opinion, reflects badly on the organization Mr. Foxman represents.

Mel‚Äôs deplorable comments came from somewhere. In his inebriated state, he revealed what was on his mind in a given moment. Together with Mel, I condemn his statements about Jewish people and say they are not true. But I praise him for what is on his mind now, in cold and reflective sobriety, as expressed in his first apology and his subsequent letter to the Jewish community.

Now is a time for forgiveness. Mel has asked for it. We should give it.”

Amen.

Rant off.

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shm10

August 2nd, 2006 at 8:09 pm
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Mac:

This was a rant that should be read by those who seem to believe that they have a lock on perfection.

While I agree that Gibsons’ comments were offensive I certainly do not think they warrant the press (in all mediums) which they have received.

I would like to find the one person who has not said or done something in their lifetime which they regret and have apologized for. We have truly taken a backwards turn when this story warrants several days of copy.

By the way, love the new site.
Macranger

August 2nd, 2006 at 8:29 pm
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Thanks shm10,

That’s exactly the point. Forgiveness is a good thing, helps us move on.
Merry Whitney

August 2nd, 2006 at 9:00 pm
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If I may add a word or six about the oft-repeated, ‘when drunk (they) say what they really think sober…’

Yeah, what bullfeathers! Tell that to someone who has never been drunk and angry at the same time, and/or never had to deal with someone who was angry and drunk.

Provocative things, including bigotry-laced words, are tossed around to inflict pain, or insult, or whatever — often in lieu of throwing punches, or bricks, or swinging a barstool at somebody’s skull. Little if any of it represents some deep, dark, secret belief.

In Mel’s case, just the fact of the paternal influence — his father is reportedly a halocaust denier — could easily dictate the direction such drunken babble might take.

In any event, I think it’s meaningless. He has apologized and expressed reqret. That’s all he can do, and it should be enough.

And, while I can see where someone might be offended at his tirade, I simply can’t buy into the idea that anyone can be “hurt” or “injured” by words from a stranger, even a famous stranger.

Good grief, these Casper Milquetoasts couldn’t have lasted twenty minutes with my late husband, even at his most endearing (now, there was a man who knew how to toss an insult).
Kitty

August 3rd, 2006 at 6:06 am
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There are Jews and Catholics in my immediate family.

That said, I’m not convinced that Mel does or does not hate Jews. Mouthing off while drunk proves very little. However, if saying anti-Semitic slurs makes you anti-Semtic, for which you must prostrate yourself before the alter of PC, then Hillary had better drop right now for her “Jew Ba*tard” slur she yelled at Paul Fray:
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/07/16/hillary.book.response.02/index.html
(Paul Fray confirmed it to CNN.)

This has been one of my beefs with this Gibson thing all along.

Plus, these same people who are outraged at Mel want Israel to stop defending themselves against terrorists whose primary goal is to annihilate the Jews.

What’s even more galling is that many of these outraged people really don’t care for Jews.
Kitty

August 3rd, 2006 at 6:39 am
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There’s a problem with viewing your peranent links: half is hidden behind the left sidebar.
L.

August 3rd, 2008 at 2:27 pm
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Speaking as a Jewish person, that has excepted the Lord as his Savior, my Jewish Heritage speaks loudly when I say, he was my favorite actor and now I feel sorry for the fool. I haven’t burned his movies though I choose not to view them and realize “Like Father, Like Son”. It has nothing to do with getting drunk and spilling his guts, it is more about who he is, then what he said and when he said it. I don’t expect that it will endanger his career though it will bring the anti-semites out of the depths of society.

And by the way the Jews did not kill Jesus ! The Roman’s did. The reason P. Pilot was the favored Governor in the eye’s of the Roman leadership, was he was able to organize the Jews to pay the taxes. The Jewish Rabbi’s had no power. Jesus was taking the hearts of all, which made himself a trarget of the Romans. His movie had an alternitive motive, just like his father had when he had “The Road Warrior” to teach his BULL. To think that he rejects that the Haulocost ever happened. To think that Jews, Gypsy’s, Christians and others were a lie, leaves a bad taste in my mind! How about your mind?